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Re: Non-constant time rate

by Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 12:57 AM

Wayne Throop wrote:
> : Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> : True. But what if you kind of presume some things as absolute, for=20
> : example that an object in motion will cross the same distance in
the=20
> : same time (Newton's 1st)? Could you, with the anomalies proposed
and=20
> : with sufficiently precise measurements, find out that it isn't always
so?=
> 
> Why would you think the object would take longer?

My first thought was actually about an electrical oscillator - let's say
 you build one and discover that, no matter what you do, you cannot
stabilize the frequency. But I'm not sure any more if that fits in the
whole idea of this anomaly.

As Robert Martinu suggested, I think I need something independant of
time that has effects that can be measured or interpreted as depending
on time.

> Just because proper time is passing slower doesn't imply that.

Could it if we divorce proper time from measured time? E.g. suddenly
detect that all time measurements are wrong (without actually having the
"outside-time" as reference)? This would also be acceptable.

> But, if you pitched a clock through such a region, anc compared
> it to a clock left outside the region, then it's easy to detect.
> Indeed, if you allow checks on things outside the region, or probe
> objects to b e sent into and gotten out of the region, then it seems
> almost to trivial to menion that they can be detected.

Yes, it's trivial. But nothing is allowed to cross the boundary. The
boundary doesn't exist as far as inside of the zone is concerned.




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Non-constant time rate
Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-04-30 17:41:02 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-30 10:01:40 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-30 16:42:38 
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Robert Martinu <invali  2008-04-30 19:35:35 
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Raghar <RagharA2@[EMAI  2008-04-30 11:58:21 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-30 22:48:04 
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Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-03 02:31:03 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-03 00:51:01 
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Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-06 00:57:20 
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"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-02 21:40:39 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-05-03 01:33:45 
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"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 13:22:41 
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Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-06 00:36:41 
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"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-05 17:10:37 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-08 13:32:25 
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"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-08 12:44:56 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-05 22:51:30 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 00:38:23 

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