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Re: Non-constant time rate

by Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 01:32 PM

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nuny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>   The constraints are much more severe than I thought, so I must
> answer "very little, actually". As Wayne Throop says you first must
> have something fundamental against which to correlate the rate of time
> in order to know that it has changed. In this Universe we have
> gravitation to correlate it with, but not in your hypothetical
> Newtonian Absolute Universe. We also have such things as the relations
> between frequency, wavelength, and velocity for light, but they're
> _empirical_ relations; c in particular has no theoretical requirement
> to have its specific known value.

You're right, both of you - I realize now that I need to refine the
requirements, and that it's hard to do and also maintain internal
consistency. Is there a technology in the relevant time period that
could reliably generate and measure high-frequency electrical pulses?
(how high? megahertz? gigahertz?)

>   This is especially true in a zone large enough to contain the solar
> system, populated by people at an early 20th century tech level.
> Absent something like improbably detailed "religious" documentation or
> an oral tradition accurate to several decimal places, why would the
> population even think there might be anything amiss?

The original idea is that they get some tiny bits of external knowledge
/ hints about their environment (something similar to the religious
angle you proposed, but not exactly) but I see I'll maybe have to
re-think this angle also.


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Non-constant time rate
Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-04-30 17:41:02 
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Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-30 10:01:40 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-30 16:42:38 
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Robert Martinu <invali  2008-04-30 19:35:35 
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Raghar <RagharA2@[EMAI  2008-04-30 11:58:21 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-30 22:48:04 
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Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-03 02:31:03 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-03 00:51:01 
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Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-06 00:57:20 
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"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-02 21:40:39 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-05-03 01:33:45 
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"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 13:22:41 
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Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-06 00:36:41 
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"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-05 17:10:37 
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Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-08 13:32:25 
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"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-08 12:44:56 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-05 22:51:30 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 00:38:23 

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