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Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons

by Erik Max Francis <max@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 16, 2008 at 02:20 AM

Wayne Throop wrote:

> Battle360 (and Dogfights, and some others) on the all-WWII channel,
> involve CGI recreations of famous events, often involving planes.
> I find it very distracting-and-eyeroll-provoking that they inject
> a shakycam effect when showing an aircraft flying by a fixed viewpoint
> at close range, as if the turbulence of the near miss shook the
> (nonexistant) camera.
> 
> Sigh.  Of course, I suppose that's not as annoying as having cars turn
> corkscrews after hitting a pebble in the road or something (though that
> latter isn't a camera effect, so I suppose it's a different category
> so annoyance factors aren't as comparable... maybe).

That's not quite what I meant in terms of "shaky-cam" -- I mean the 
random and distracting motions of the camera just in the normal course 
of filming.  I agree that the particular effects you're talking about 
are a bit silly, but at least there _would_ be turbulence in those cases 
if you could somehow hover at that point.  It's silly, it's done for 
effect, but it's overdone.

The shaky-cam where the cameraman can't hold the camera straight just 
suggests ... the cameraman is incompetent.  Except he isn't, it's a 
deliberate production value.  _Law & Order_ was one of the first 
mainstream television series to hop on the shaky-cam bandwagon, but at 
least the erratic motions there are small enough in magnitude that my 
brain filters it out.  (Which, by the way, suggests an interesting 
question:  What is the point of a gimmicky production effect that the 
audience has learned to ignore?)  A lot of productions way overdo it; I 
haven't seen _Cloverfield_ yet, but even reviewers strongly recommending 
the film are warning about the vomit-induction-cam.

I like both _Dogfights_ and _Battle 360_ for what they are -- and they 
_do_ do a bit of the more traditional shaky-cam to try to give a 
"realistic" feel to pilots, say, searching for targets.  (_Battlestar 
Galactica_, for instance, does this too.)  My real complaint about 
_Battle 360_ wouldn't be the fake turbulence effects, it'd be the 
constant stream of digital noise that they put in a surprising number of 
shots -- it looks like a 3D grid of nonsense streaming past at all 
times, and it's in something like half of the episode -- including 
things like interviews with the actual participants.  It adds nothing 
and is really distracting.  Even when the camera (or virtual camera) is 
perfectly still.

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    -- Mark Twain
 




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Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-05-08 18:36:32 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-08 17:33:32 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 18:13:42 
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Eivind <eivindorama@[E  2008-05-09 09:22:56 
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Dave Farrance <DaveFar  2008-05-09 08:54:36 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-05-09 02:46:27 
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Dr J R Stockton <jrs@[  2008-05-08 19:19:27 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 23:51:35 
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Mike Williams <nospam@  2008-05-09 03:46:47 
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"A.G.McDowell"   2008-05-09 05:50:10 
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Dr J R Stockton <jrs@[  2008-05-09 21:15:16 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-05-09 20:35:50 
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"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-09 16:50:10 
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Phillip Thorne <pethor  2008-05-09 23:08:30 
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stanleyh@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-09 23:07:02 
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Eivind <eivindorama@[E  2008-05-15 10:15:08 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-09 23:58:26 
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Mike Williams <nospam@  2008-05-10 04:32:54 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-05-10 00:50:09 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-10 06:23:31 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-05-10 04:47:14 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-05-15 15:57:27 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
George W Harris <gharr  2008-05-15 21:30:00 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-05-15 19:46:37 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
Raghar <RagharA2@[EMAI  2008-05-11 08:13:36 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 19:34:28 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
"alanmc95210@[EMAIL   2008-05-13 17:02:15 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 05:13:11 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-05-16 02:20:20 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 17:48:56 
Re: Just to be sure: Planet with multiple moons
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-05-17 22:08:41 

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