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Re: New Info : Asteroids Cause More Damage Than First Believed

by bw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (B1ackwater) Jan 31, 2008 at 10:09 PM

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:28:57 -0800 (PST), "Tom Sr."
<tomswiftsr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>On Jan 31, 7:09 am, b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (B1ackwater) wrote:
>>    Oh, and why are most sci-fi space****ps needle-shaped,
>>    kind of like stretched-out Concorde jetliners or big
>>    TV towers covered with pods ?
>
>You mean, like our *real* space****ps are now?
>
>Because they travel through atmosphere as well as in space.  Thus the
>early SF films and television into 50s and 60s were given shapes to
>allow them to travel through both.
>
>The idea of a vessel that travel ONLY in space did not start making it
>into films until the late 1960s.  The original STAR TREK and 2001: A
>SPACE ODYSSEY both had ****ps that showed examples of this concept.

  Kubricks space ****p WAS *****-shaped ... however the
  excuse was to keep the nuclear-powered engine section
  well away from the (spherical) crew section. 

  Roddenberrys 'Enterprise' was, and remains, an extremely
  WEIRD design. I don't think ANYBODY (human anyway) would
  build such a thing. Note how the 'alien' ****ps in the
  original and latter series were always '***ier' than
  Kirks garbage scow  :-)

  Really old sci-fi spacecraft, well, they brought the
  whole booster along with them. Same rocket that left
  the ground. 

  Admittedly, dual-purpose spacecraft - one intended to
  enter an atmosphere on occasion - would need to retain
  a certain aerodynamic look ... although perhaps no
  '***ier' than the space shuttle. 

>>    That's the WORST possible
>>    shape for a spacecraft. They should all look like
>>    'death stars', round balls, instead. Solves all kinds
>>    of torque, vibration and differential acceleration
>>    problems.
>
>You never watched BABLYON 5, did you?

   I recall a very late or post episode where they
   built a pair of huge 'needle' spacecraft. Can
   you IMAGINE the G-forces and structural stresses
   that would come from trying to change directions
   with such a monstrosity ? It would want to pull
   itself apart in the middle ... not to mention
   the whole thing vibrating like a guitar string
   every time they fired a thruster or engine. 

   Sorry, but Lucas got it right with his 'death star'.
   Just gotta remember not to put any direct ****ts to
   the reactor in the design  :-) I recall a 'trek'
   with a huge spherical (but modular) craft piloted
   by a midget too. Leslie Neilsons flying saucer ...
   kind of a compromise IMHO.

   Oh well, sci-fi generally has much more emphasis
   on the "-FI" ...
 




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Re: New Info : Asteroids Cause More Damage Than First Believed
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