On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:53:44 +0000 (UTC), mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Michael
Alan Chary) wrote:
>In article <592fq397v204lk3rrkp2266qfqapfdnbsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:32:37 +0000 (UTC), mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Michael
>>Alan Chary) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <fo5t7p$nb2$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>William December Starr <wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>In article <qsk9q3lip3vjfpejvig98cn2407cq0mmh7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>>
>>>>> I've always thought that a good high-concept description of Chuck
>>>>> is, "It's the Greatest American Hero minus the cape."
>>>>>
>>>>> "And with Connie Selleca as not just Ralph's love interest, but
>>>>> also as another secret agent and Bill's reluctant partner. And,
>>>>> okay, she's a much-hotter blonde who bears a strong resemblance to
>>>>> Marcia Brady all growed up."
>>>>
>>>
>>>Sarah's very beautiful, but she is way, way, *WAY* less hot than Connie
>>>Selleca. And not just because I was 13 or so when I first saw Connie
>>>Selleca.
>>
>>Dude, I'm about your age. Faye Grant from "V" is waaaaay hotter than
>>Connie Selleca. So were about 95% of two-x-chromosome Hollywood at
>>that time. Heck, Marie Osmond is hotter than Connie Selleca.
>
>Mixed vibes. Faye Grant is better looking than most of the woemn I know
>personally, I'm sure, but compared to other professional show biz types?
>As for Marie Osomnd: spoken like someone who never saw The Bermuda
>Depths...
>
>There is, I think, a hierarchy:
New Categories:
Women who are reasonably attractive, but waaaaay overrated, both on
the show and in real life:
Alyssa Milan-ho.
Women who are reasonably attractive:
Bonnie Franklin
and, uh, I can't think of anyone else who fits the category. BF was
just, uh, pretty in a blah sort of way.
>Women who are attractive enough by tv standards, but can still play a
>normal person on a show, even though in real life we would kill ourselves
>over them:
>
>Jan Smithers, Connie Selleca, Stephanie Zimbalist, Bonnie Franklin, etc.
Modern: Jaime Pressley (or however she spells her name).
I think Smithers belongs in a new category below.
>Women who are so attractive that other characters comment on it, but
still
>pass for normal people on the show:
>
>Joyce Dewitt, Loretta Switt, Veronica Hamel, Lee Meriwether,
>Catherine Bell, etc.
I am not sure what this category means and my disinterest of Veronica
Hamel-types doesn't help to clarify anything.
But perhaps, Crystal Bernard? (Me miss Wings.) Mary-Louise Parker on
Weeds?
But, I'll add the following category:
Women who are so attractive that other characters DON'T comment on it
and thus, the lack of commentary about their beauty sticks out like a
sore thumb (getting ***ually harassed by a Dan Fielding-type is not
commentary on the given actor/character's beauty as said Dan
Fielding-type by definition will ***ually harrass virtually every
person over the age of consent who has two x-chromosomes.):
Jan Smithers (The Poster Child for this category). Barbara Feldon.
Markie Post (yes, despite that damn mullet).
Modern: Hayden Pannetierre. Holly Marie Combs. Ellen Pompeo.
>Women who are so ridiculously attractive, that their physical beauty
>becomes a regular plot point for episodes:
>
>Lynda Carter, Cathy lee Crosby, Mary Tyler Moore, Cheryl Ladd, Suzanne
>Sommers (which is how they get away with having Joyce Dewitt in the
second
>category), Loni Anderson (which is how Jan Smithers, etc) Stephanie
>Powers, Julie Newmar, Diana Riggs, etc....
In the case of Lynda Carter, that's something of a cop out as Wonder
Woman is *supposed* to be ridiculously beautiful. Cathy Lee Crosby
doesn't belong anywhere on these lists, IMO, which naturally explains
why she was instantly replaced by Lynda Carter after the horrible
reviews she got for the first WW movie.
And how in the hell can you leave Catherine Bach out of this category?
;)
Modern actors:
Lauren Graham. Connie Britton. Rachel Bilson. Autumn Reeser. Jewel
Staite (on Firefly, at the dance in "Our Mrs. Reynolds.") Rose
McGowan. Katherine Heigl. Jennifer Morrison. Olivia Wilde (House
specifically cited Cameron's looks in the pilot as why he picked her,
intrigued that someone with her looks would go into a field in which
she can't get by on her looks alone when so many with her looks would
just live off 'em. More or less the same with 13. And the revelation
tonight that 13 is bi***ual just punctuates it about this newer
character.)
>Obviously most actresses fall into the first two categories but even more
>are just ludicrously miscast. Erin Gray was a supermodel. Yet, they put
>her on Buck Rogers and Silver Spoons, and nobody noticed. Yancy Butler
and
>Claudia Black are incredibly beautiful, and if they want to play soldiers
>and so on, that's fine by me, but it makes Daniel Jackson look like a
>blind monk.
Well, I wouldn't say that Claudia Black is Beautiful (pun not
intended, but entirely unavoidable anyway), but she's incredibly
intelligent and charismatic and her voice is like buttah. Still I
understand why Crichton and Daniel Jackson would go for Black in both
incarnations anyway.
One more thing: I haven't the slightest idea where Pauley Perrette
would go on this scale, so I have the feeling that she gets her own
category. ;)
-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
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