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Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma?

by A Watcher <stocksami@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 7, 2008 at 12:02 PM

On Feb 7, 11:48 am, jojo <jojl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 9:02 pm, William George Ferguson <wmgfr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:34:48 -0500, "KalElFan"
<kalel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >[crossposts from rec.arts.tv altered]
>
> > >"MikeM" <MichaelML...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >
>news:e8574b71-6c03-4da3-bd18-f0e4fed1a9d3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> ... If Sarah Conner loses, her son is killed by a
> > >> Terminator and the series -- not to mention the world she and her
> > >> buddies inhabit -- is gone. But if she succeeds, and somehow
manages
> > >> to stop the construction of the intelligent supercomputer known as
> > >> Skynet, then...
>
> > >> ... the protector won't be assembled
>
> > >Not necessarily.  The two writing constraints that the show now has,
> > >in terms of the time travel element, can be described as:
>
> > >  (i) the human protector from the first movie (John Connor's
father),
> > >  must go back to circa 1982 and conceive John.  The Terminator
> > >  must also go back to be the nemesis back then; and
>
> > >  (ii) the subsequent terminator and machine protector from T2,
> > >  and the current terminators and protector (Cameron) depicted in
> > >  this series, must likewise go back (unless the series somehow
> > >  changes its own history by doubling back on itself; let's assume
> > >  they don't do that).
>
> > Actually, these aren't required.  The show seems to take the position
that
> > changing the future doesn't retroactively change the past, and once a
> > future person/object travels to the past, it is part of that past. 
Thus,
> > if changes made after Reese arrives in the past cause Reese to not
travel
> > to the past in the changed future, the Reese that did travel to the
past
> > was still there in the past.  Similarly, if Cameron's intervention
leads to
> > her not being built in the future, the Cameron in the past still
exists.
> > The change doesn't retroactively make her go poof.
>
> Which means that we are speaking here about parallel universes,
> meaning going to the past changes nothing to your world but creates a
> new universe, meaning there is no interest in time travel, meaning all
> the story has no purpose at all ! So Skynet sent a Terminator in the
> past to kill John Connor, but who cares, it will just create a new
> world where there is no John Connor, but do nothing in the universe
> where Skynet lost the war. And if parallel universes exist, there is
> an infinite number of them, so one more, one less, why the f... send
> someone in the past to stop the Terminator ?

If you think too hard about time travel stories they don't make any
sense.  Just go with the flow and enjoy the story, otherwise you just
get a headache.
 




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Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
A Watcher <stocksami@[  2008-02-07 12:02:18 

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