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Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma?

by George W Harris <gharrus@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 7, 2008 at 11:50 PM

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:11:14 -0700, William George Ferguson
<wmgfrgsn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

:
:There is no need for there to be alternate futures or parallel universes
in
:existence, only the one, which changes.  However, changing the future
:doesn't change the past, even the past that includes someone who came
back
:from the (now changed) future.

	Except that doesn't work: the first movie 
excludes that possibility.

	Skynet sent the first 101 back before Connor 
sent Reese back, right?  So, if there's one timeline which 
changes, then as soon as Skynet sends the 101 back, 
the timeline would change, the 101 would kill Sarah in 
Tech Noir, and there would be no John Connor.  Game 
over.

	The first movie *also* exludes the possibility of 
multiple timelines.  The 101 is sent back to a time earlier 
than Reese is sent back (it appears in 1984 before 
Reese does).  If there were multiple timelines, then once 
the 101 was sent back, it would be in a timeline where it 
appears in 1984, kills Sarah Connor in Tech Noir, and 
John Connor is never born, but John Connor and Kyle 
Reese are in a timeline where that didn't happen.  So, 
when Reese is sent back, he would be sent back to a 
timeline where there is no 101 in 1984 (since that isn't in 
his past).  Clearly that's not what happened, so there 
can't be multiple timelines either.

	The only consistent interpretation of the first 
movie is of one unaltered timeline.
-- 
"If you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste more
like 
prunes than rhubarb does"              -Groucho Marx

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Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
jojo <jojlolo@[EMAIL P  2008-02-07 11:48:48 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-02-07 14:54:31 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-08 15:40:27 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-08 21:32:56 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-08 22:21:52 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-09 04:55:55 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-09 00:10:18 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-09 08:29:55 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"Arthur Lipscomb&quo  2008-02-09 07:28:48 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-09 19:27:52 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"Arthur Lipscomb&quo  2008-02-09 12:21:30 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-09 21:50:52 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"karl" <kona  2008-02-10 11:09:37 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-09 17:40:00 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Ian Galbraith <me@[EMA  2008-02-10 20:42:43 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-10 15:20:38 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-10 22:02:47 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Ian Galbraith <me@[EMA  2008-02-11 13:04:29 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-10 21:45:15 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
William George Ferguson &  2008-02-07 15:11:14 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
George W Harris <gharr  2008-02-07 23:50:49 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
George W Harris <gharr  2008-02-08 17:40:25 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-08 22:21:50 

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