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Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma?

by George W Harris <gharrus@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 8, 2008 at 04:12 AM

On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:14:06 -0500, "KalElFan" <kalelfan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

:"George W Harris" <gharrus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
:news:reumq39l1i4d4arf2sadlgqek9t8cochk1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:34:48 -0500, "KalElFan"
<kalelfan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
:> wrote:
:>
:> :Not necessarily.  The two writing constraints that the show now has,
:> :in terms of the time travel element, can be described as:
:> :
:> :  (i) the human protector from the first movie (John Connor's father),
:> :  must go back to circa 1982 and conceive John.  The Terminator
:> :  must also go back to be the nemesis back then; and
:>
:> May, 1984, actually.  That's solidly established.
:
:The first movie came out in 1984 and perhaps May, 1984 was specifically
:mentioned at some point as the month Reese and Connor conceived John?

	That's the date on Sarah's timecard, and in T2 
the date of John's birth is seen on a computer screen to 
be February 28th, 1985.
:
:The main point is that his existence is part of a time loop, and some of
:the assertions or excuses in other posts don't address that.  Suggesting
:we just don't think about it, or using semantics that try to avoid or
wish
:away the inherent paradox, will be insufficient for the core base that
gets
:the issue.  

	The is no inherent paradox in a closed 
timelike-curve, or a causal loop.  There's only a paradox 
in an *inconsistent* closed timelike curve; a kill-your-
grandfather situation.

-- 
Never give a loaded gun to a woman in labor.

George W. Harris  For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'.
 




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Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-07 12:34:48 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
William George Ferguson &  2008-02-07 12:02:58 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-07 15:57:00 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-08 02:48:36 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-08 05:21:10 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-09 02:03:09 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-09 01:31:30 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-02-08 22:15:21 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-09 16:58:15 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-02-09 13:20:55 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-10 03:14:39 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Doc O'Leary <droleary.  2008-02-09 10:36:21 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-09 19:43:32 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-02-09 13:18:22 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-09 17:39:18 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"Dimensional Travele  2008-02-09 18:35:36 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-10 00:48:44 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"Default User"   2008-02-07 20:57:54 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
George W Harris <gharr  2008-02-07 16:36:58 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-08 00:14:06 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-08 07:25:23 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
George W Harris <gharr  2008-02-08 04:12:15 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-08 15:40:30 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
George W Harris <gharr  2008-02-08 17:46:21 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"Joetheone" <  2008-02-08 23:57:57 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
"KalElFan" <  2008-02-08 22:21:55 
Re: Is "Terminator" stuck in a "Gilligan's Island"-style dilemma
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-07 23:37:49 

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