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ANIM8Rfsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Anim8rFSK) writes:
| In article <1345362@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Dan Lanciani) wrote:
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| > "Martin" <nonhere@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
| > news:ofGdnds--pmqyCHanZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| > | Agreed. They also got pas the Earth Iris because they were able to
enter
| > | an ident code.
| >
| > Worse, Midway has its own IDC that doesn't get zeroized on lock down.
| >
| > | Again poor writing I suspect. The fact is an Iris on the
| > | Atlantis gate would have prevented the Wraith getting onboard Midway
and
| > | if "Walter" had been a litlte more on the mark he might have got an
| > | audible confirmation beofre opening the Iris on the Earth Stargate.
| >
| > Given the way the treated the connection I don't think asking for an
| > audible confirmation would be possible, at least under a model where
| > each gate in the bridge must shut down its incoming worm hole before
| > it can connect to the next hop.
|
| Of course, if that's what it's doing, I don't understand why McKay
| assumed they got dumped out on the planet, as opposed to being stuck in
| a pattern buffer somewhere (which would be preferrable to being dumped
| out into space).
Well, I guess he should know since he wrote the macros. Maybe the
algorithm
is that if you can't continue you get re-integrated and dumped. Good if
you
are at the planet gate, bad everywhere else. Rodney would just be
following
the Ancient tradition of building death traps. And he did know that the
"glitch" was at the planet-based gate. Maybe he had to know that. He
said
they couldn't contact Midway and the only way they could detect that
condition
(other than waiting for a call back) is at the first hop. With only one
worm
hole open at a time there is no back-channel for status re****ts. If they
can't
persuade a gate to sup****t incoming and outgoing worm holes at the same
time
they might want to consider having a macro to make every other gate
multi-dial
its two neighbors. At least that way they could have a cut-through bridge
for
radio.
| > When the Midway IDC code came through they acted as if it was a normal
| > connection, expecting (I assume) travelers to follow in the same worm
| > hole. But whatever had come or was to come must have been buffered
| > in the last/first gate in the bridge, being clocked out at an
appropriate
| > rate. (You need the IDC to be received enough in advance to allow the
| > iris to be opened, so even RF must be going through the buffer in this
| > configuration to preserve the relative timing.)
| >
| > There was nobody to talk to and no way to get an audible confirmation
| > unless that was a pre-arranged part of the procedure--which it
obviously
| > wasn't. There is also no way to warn incoming travelers that you
| > can't or won't open the iris or even for them to find out that, e.g.,
| > there is nobody around to try. This seems like an incredibly risky
| > procedure for both ends. I would have thought they would have at
least
| > one back-and-forth communication pass to minimize the risk before
sending
| > anyone through. At the same time that would increase the confidence
| > before opening the iris.
|
| Yep. I wondered why they weren't surprised to hear from Midway a full
| 24 hours before Teal'c was scheduled to return. Obviously there weren't
| any other travellers on the station* and if everybody has to go through
| the quarantine, then this is an unscheduled activation.
I suppose in theory it could have been one of the residents. Still they
should have called with a message (only) first. I mean, the whole purpose
of the bridge is to make calls power-cheap, so they could afford a few
extras.
| *world's dumbest quarantine procedure, btw. Incoming travellers just
| roam the station freely for 24 hours until . . . what, exactly?
They die?
| How
| does this stop Pegasus bugs from coming through? Isn't everybody on the
| station always infected? And how does anybody else come through? Does
| the station take one batch of guests (up to 2 apparently) and then not
| let anybody on for 24 hours until they leave? Otherwise the 24 hour
| period has to keep starting over. And if that's the case, Stargate
| Command should have DEFINITELY challenged the incoming wormhole. It
| was, at the very least, breaking quarantine protocol.
What about the fact that Ronon wanted to dial Earth directly _because_
going
through Midway involved the 24 hour quarantine. Apparently if you dial
direct
you don't need any quarantine or maybe they quarantine you more
comfortably in
the SGC. Between that, the limited accommodations on Midway, and the
overall
stupidity of the quarantine protocol I was almost ready to believe that
the
whole thing was simply a scam to make Ronon spend more time with his
tutor.
| > | The fact is installing an Iris on both Midway gates would help
prevent a
| > | similar incursion.
| > |
| > | Additionally, I would not have the earth gates go direct to the SGC,
there
| > | is no need. Perhaps to the Alpha site first, then dial Earth.
| >
| > Even some uninhabited planet... Taking Midway should not give you a
| > free pass into the SGC.
|
| I'm not sure why there are gates on any planets anyway, unless they're
| intended to act as a failsafe, which they didn't seem to be. The first
| gate should take you outside the galaxy, and it and all the others
| should be in space. Unless suddenly we have a gate network that can't
| jump anyplace in it's own galaxy in one hop.
Maybe it's easier to tinker with the gate if it's on a planet? Easier for
Rodney, but also easier for the Wraith.
Dan Lanciani
ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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