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Re: Midway/Iris

by "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 24, 2008 at 02:47 PM

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:40:57 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

> ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
>> "Martin" <nonhere@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> 
>> | Agreed. They also got pas the Earth Iris because they were able to
enter 
>> | an ident code.
>> 
>> Worse, Midway has its own IDC that doesn't get zeroized on lock down.
>> 
>> | Again poor writing I suspect. The fact is an Iris on the 
>> | Atlantis gate would have prevented the Wraith getting onboard Midway
and 
>> | if "Walter" had been a litlte more on the mark he might have got an 
>> | audible confirmation  beofre opening the Iris on the Earth Stargate.
>> 
>> Given the way the treated the connection I don't think asking for an
>> audible confirmation would be possible, at least under a model where
>> each gate in the bridge must shut down its incoming worm hole before
>> it can connect to the next hop.
>
>Of course, if that's what it's doing, I don't understand why McKay 
>assumed they got dumped out on the planet, as opposed to being stuck in 
>a pattern buffer somewhere (which would be preferrable to being dumped 
>out into space).

That was because the "glitch" occurred at the planet.  Either they had
made it to Midway OR they were dumped out on the planet.

>> When the Midway IDC code came through they acted as if it was a normal
>> connection, expecting (I assume) travelers to follow in the same worm
>> hole.  But whatever had come or was to come must have been buffered
>> in the last/first gate in the bridge, being clocked out at an
appropriate
>> rate.  (You need the IDC to be received enough in advance to allow the
>> iris to be opened, so even RF must be going through the buffer in this
>> configuration to preserve the relative timing.)
>> 
>> There was nobody to talk to and no way to get an audible confirmation
>> unless that was a pre-arranged part of the procedure--which it
obviously
>> wasn't.  There is also no way to warn incoming travelers that you
>> can't or won't open the iris or even for them to find out that, e.g.,
>> there is nobody around to try.  This seems like an incredibly risky
>> procedure for both ends.  I would have thought they would have at least
>> one back-and-forth communication pass to minimize the risk before
sending
>> anyone through.  At the same time that would increase the confidence
>> before opening the iris.
>
>Yep.  I wondered why they weren't surprised to hear from Midway a full 
>24 hours before Teal'c was scheduled to return.  

They were.  It just wasn't as big of a surprise or deal as you thought
it should be.  If it had been me, I'd have thought there was an
unscheduled message coming through.

>Obviously there weren't 
>any other travellers on the station* and if everybody has to go through 
>the quarantine, then this is an unscheduled activation.
>
>*world's dumbest quarantine procedure, btw.  Incoming travellers just 
>roam the station freely for 24 hours until . . . what, exactly?  

The thought is that they'll show symptoms by then.  

>How 
>does this stop Pegasus bugs from coming through?  Isn't everybody on the 
>station always infected?  And how does anybody else come through?  Does 
>the station take one batch of guests (up to 2 apparently) and then not 
>let anybody on for 24 hours until they leave?  Otherwise the 24 hour 
>period has to keep starting over. And if that's the case, Stargate 
>Command should have DEFINITELY challenged the incoming wormhole.  It 
>was, at the very least, breaking quarantine protocol.

No necessarily and, there are quarantine facilities on the base there.

>> | The fact is installing an Iris on both Midway gates would help
prevent a 
>> | similar incursion.
>> |
>> | Additionally, I would not have the earth gates go direct to the SGC,
there 
>> | is no need. Perhaps to the Alpha site first, then dial Earth.
>> 
>> Even some uninhabited planet...  Taking Midway should not give you a
>> free pass into the SGC.
>
>I'm not sure why there are gates on any planets anyway, unless they're 
>intended to act as a failsafe, which they didn't seem to be.  The first 
>gate should take you outside the galaxy, and it and all the others 
>should be in space.  

From what we saw, that could very well be the case.

>Unless suddenly we have a gate network that can't 
>jump anyplace in it's own galaxy in one hop.
-- 
"I think between us, Bill Clinton and I have settled any lingering myths 
 about the brilliance of Rhodes scholars."
   Kris Kristofferson
 




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Re: Midway/Iris
ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-24 09:07:05 
Re: Midway/Iris
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-02-24 02:40:57 
Re: Midway/Iris
ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-24 10:46:46 
Re: Midway/Iris
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-02-24 06:42:40 
Re: Midway/Iris
"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-02-24 14:52:04 
Re: Midway/Iris
ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-25 04:23:23 
Re: Midway/Iris
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-02-24 22:39:22 
Re: Midway/Iris
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-24 18:03:54 
Re: Midway/Iris
"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-02-24 14:47:17 
Re: Midway/Iris
"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-02-24 14:38:55 

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