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Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?

by thinbluemime <thinbluemime@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 2, 2008 at 12:31 AM

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:58:51 -0500, A Watcher <stocksami@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
wrote:

> thinbluemime wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:32:51 -0500, Steven L. <sdlitvin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

>> wrote:
>>
>>> In January 2005, Damon Lindelof discussed "Lost" in an interview:
>>>
>>> "We're still trying to be ... firmly ensconced in the world of science
 
>>> fact.  I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet ... that has
 
>>> no rational explanation in the real world that we all function within.
 
>>> We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and ... things  
>>> being in a place where they probably shouldn't be. But nothing is  
>>> flat-out impossible. There are no space****ps. There isn't any time  
>>> travel."
>>>
>>> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html
>>>
>>> Well, didn't this new episode, "The Constant," involve at least a  
>>> teensy-weensy little bit of time travel???
>>>
>>> And BTW, do you think that Lindelof's definition of "science fact"  
>>> might just be a trifle elastic, to cover all the phenomena we've seen 

>>> on the show?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Duh!
>>  Do a google group search of my posts for the last 8-12 months and see 

>> how many contain the phrase, "They lie...they have to"
>>  Of course they have lied. They have lied on several levels and for  
>> several reasons.
>>  Read where they lied about the Roger Workman Blueprint. If Lost fans  
>> would investigate just that one issue of Lost, they would know where  
>> the metaphoric Lost island is located.
>>  Duh!
>>  BTW, I define a lie as any information that is propagated to knowingly
 
>> mislead from the truth.
>>
>
> Is it a lie if they change their mind?

The producers have said they never introduce an element into the Lost  
saga, without knowing how that element fits into the Lost puzzle  
(paraphrased, their exact phraseology escapes me at the moment)

The producers have also stated, they have known from the beginning, the  
starting point and ending point of the multi year Lost saga. The middle  
meandering, was dependent upon the length of time abc required them  
(producers) to tell the story. 3 years, 4 years, 5 years, 6 years, 10  
years...the more years the more filler, the more beach sand castle  
building, the more tap dancing.

The fibbing, in part, was an attempt to fullfill the contractual agreement
 
between Bad Robot and ABC on several levels.
The fibs also conceal the metaphor behind Lost, which again is an attempt 

to meet the terms of the agreement between ABC and the production company.

If you have not listened to the Elvis Mitchell interview of JJ Abrams from
 
2004, I highly suggest you do.
Abrams specifically mentions Rod Serling's sci-fi storytelling as a  
blueprint for his (Abrams) method.

In a nut shell here it is:
Tell the story in a straight forward way, and loose advertisers and  
network sup****t.
Tell the same story, concealed in a metaphor, win advertiser and network  
sup****t, and awards.

Now Abrams aint no dummy...which do you think he chose?

Remember, Cloverfield was a thinly disquised metaphor for the terror of  
9-11.

Do ya think Abrams just recently thought of using 9-11 for a metaphoric  
movie?
Hell no.
Listen VERY closely to the Elvis Mitchell interview.....





-- 
http://www.lostdude.com
 




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LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Steven L." <  2008-03-01 23:32:51 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-02 17:39:41 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-02 00:47:06 
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Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-02 11:42:48 
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Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-03 09:02:31 
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"Ernie Sty" <  2008-03-05 18:16:37 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-06 00:39:39 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Ernie Sty" <  2008-03-05 19:00:29 
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Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-03 08:58:51 
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Andrew <thecroft@[EMAI  2008-03-02 21:54:28 
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"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-03-02 20:46:23 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-02 22:59:18 
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"Ernie Sty" <  2008-03-05 18:18:43 
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Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-03 02:25:55 
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thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-01 23:56:12 
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A Watcher <stocksami@[  2008-03-01 20:58:51 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-02 00:31:30 
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jojo <jojlolo@[EMAIL P  2008-03-02 01:37:08 
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"Steven L." <  2008-03-02 09:24:18 
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Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-03 08:56:24 
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jojo <jojlolo@[EMAIL P  2008-03-02 08:30:26 
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The Translucent Amoebae &  2008-03-02 10:59:42 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-02 12:40:07 
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rilynil <nadams65@[EMA  2008-03-03 20:00:28 
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Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-04 10:12:51 
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"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-03-04 16:11:10 
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Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-04 19:34:53 
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"Ryan Robbins"   2008-03-11 22:42:17 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-12 16:01:47 
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Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-13 17:26:12 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 15:47:41 
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jayembee <jayembeenosp  2008-03-02 05:35:14 
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Robert <rmiller@[EMAIL  2008-03-02 05:58:19 
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masonReloaded <jonmaso  2008-03-02 06:25:10 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-02 08:51:08 
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"Aboli Bibelot"  2008-03-04 22:57:28 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-02 08:12:48 
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tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-03-02 07:14:37 
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"Aboli Bibelot"  2008-03-04 23:06:51 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-04 21:24:10 
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Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-05 18:27:01 
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"Ryan Robbins"   2008-03-11 18:30:53 
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s0183616 <s0183616@[EM  2008-03-12 20:12:52 
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Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-03-02 09:56:25 
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The Translucent Amoebae &  2008-03-02 11:13:47 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-03-02 20:49:52 
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JordanLund <lundj@[EMA  2008-03-02 10:44:11 
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thelostguy@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-03-02 19:04:00 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-03 18:52:48 
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robgood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-03 22:16:35 
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"George Avalos"  2008-03-04 07:07:09 
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Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-04 07:42:14 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-04 12:30:38 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-04 19:44:13 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-04 21:27:38 
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Andrew <thecroft@[EMAI  2008-03-04 23:58:06 
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letsmakethewaterturnblack  2008-03-04 22:18:36 

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