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Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?

by "Dimensional Traveler" <dtravel@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 2, 2008 at 12:40 PM

The Translucent Amoebae wrote:
> On Mar 1, 9:31 pm, thinbluemime <thinbluem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:58:51 -0500, A Watcher
>> <stocks...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> thinbluemime wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:32:51 -0500, Steven L.
>>>> <sdlit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>>> In January 2005, Damon Lindelof discussed "Lost" in an interview:
>>
>>>>> "We're still trying to be ... firmly ensconced in the world of
>>>>> science fact.  I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet
>>>>> ... that has no rational explanation in the real world that we
>>>>> all function within. We certainly hint at psychic phenomena,
>>>>> happenstance and ... things being in a place where they probably
>>>>> shouldn't be. But nothing is flat-out impossible. There are no
>>>>> space****ps. There isn't any time travel."
>>
>>>>> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html
>>
>>>>> Well, didn't this new episode, "The Constant," involve at least a
>>>>> teensy-weensy little bit of time travel???
>>
>>>>> And BTW, do you think that Lindelof's definition of "science fact"
>>>>> might just be a trifle elastic, to cover all the phenomena we've
>>>>> seen on the show?
>>
>>>> Duh!
>>>>  Do a google group search of my posts for the last 8-12 months and
>>>> see how many contain the phrase, "They lie...they have to"
>>>>  Of course they have lied. They have lied on several levels and for
>>>> several reasons.
>>>>  Read where they lied about the Roger Workman Blueprint. If Lost
>>>> fans would investigate just that one issue of Lost, they would
>>>> know where the metaphoric Lost island is located.
>>>>  Duh!
>>>>  BTW, I define a lie as any information that is propagated to
>>>> knowingly mislead from the truth.
>>
>>> Is it a lie if they change their mind?
>>
>> The producers have said they never introduce an element into the Lost
>> saga, without knowing how that element fits into the Lost puzzle
>> (paraphrased, their exact phraseology escapes me at the moment)
>>
>> The producers have also stated, they have known from the beginning,
>> the starting point and ending point of the multi year Lost saga. The
>> middle meandering, was dependent upon the length of time abc
>> required them (producers) to tell the story. 3 years, 4 years, 5
>> years, 6 years, 10 years...the more years the more filler, the more
>> beach sand castle building, the more tap dancing.
>>
>> The fibbing, in part, was an attempt to fullfill the contractual
>> agreement between Bad Robot and ABC on several levels.
>> The fibs also conceal the metaphor behind Lost, which again is an
>> attempt to meet the terms of the agreement between ABC and the
>> production company.
>>
>> If you have not listened to the Elvis Mitchell interview of JJ
>> Abrams from 2004, I highly suggest you do.
>> Abrams specifically mentions Rod Serling's sci-fi storytelling as a
>> blueprint for his (Abrams) method.
>>
>> In a nut shell here it is:
>> Tell the story in a straight forward way, and loose advertisers and
>> network sup****t.
>> Tell the same story, concealed in a metaphor, win advertiser and
>> network sup****t, and awards.
>>
>> Now Abrams aint no dummy...which do you think he chose?
>>
>> Remember, Cloverfield was a thinly disquised metaphor for the terror
>> of 9-11.
>>
>> Do ya think Abrams just recently thought of using 9-11 for a
>> metaphoric movie?
>> Hell no.
>> Listen VERY closely to the Elvis Mitchell interview.....
>>
>> --http://www.lostdude.com
>
> i think that there should be some sort of Rebellion or Revolution of
> Viewers  concerning how Television programming is produced...!
>
> From now on; All programming that is bought by a network must have a
> fixed time limit or number of episodes... And if the network wants to
> continue the  show after that limit, then they can go in some new
> direction.
>
> Shows that meet this criteria might be The Lost Room, Veronica Mars,
> No Where Man and others that essentially lasted one season, wrapped it
> up, and in the case of Veronica Mars, just started a new ArchMythos
> with Season two.
>
> The Lost Room & No Where Man could easily have been extended if they
> their weren't so weird and were canceled.
>
> ( The Lost Room may have been a miniseries and never intended for
> serialization, although it could have been )
>
> In the case of John Doe; it would seem that the producers Never had
> any idea where it was going, based on answers to viewers questions
> after it was canceled.
>
> To my way of thinking; That is extremely evil.

Never happen.  It would prevent the profit-oriented companies involved
from 
milking the popular shows for every penny of advertising revenue possible 
for as long as possible.  Plus the simple fact that most shows do not have
a 
controlling story-arc, just a series of individual, unconnected stories
that 
happen to have the same characters in them.

-- 
Sig under construction
 




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LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Steven L." <  2008-03-01 23:32:51 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-02 17:39:41 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-02 00:47:06 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-02 11:42:48 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-03 09:02:31 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Ernie Sty" <  2008-03-05 18:16:37 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-06 00:39:39 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Ernie Sty" <  2008-03-05 19:00:29 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-03 08:58:51 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Andrew <thecroft@[EMAI  2008-03-02 21:54:28 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-03-02 20:46:23 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-02 22:59:18 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Ernie Sty" <  2008-03-05 18:18:43 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-03 02:25:55 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-01 23:56:12 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
A Watcher <stocksami@[  2008-03-01 20:58:51 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-02 00:31:30 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
jojo <jojlolo@[EMAIL P  2008-03-02 01:37:08 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Steven L." <  2008-03-02 09:24:18 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-03 08:56:24 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
jojo <jojlolo@[EMAIL P  2008-03-02 08:30:26 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
The Translucent Amoebae &  2008-03-02 10:59:42 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-02 12:40:07 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
rilynil <nadams65@[EMA  2008-03-03 20:00:28 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-04 10:12:51 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-03-04 16:11:10 
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Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-04 19:34:53 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Ryan Robbins"   2008-03-11 22:42:17 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-12 16:01:47 
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Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-13 17:26:12 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 15:47:41 
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jayembee <jayembeenosp  2008-03-02 05:35:14 
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Robert <rmiller@[EMAIL  2008-03-02 05:58:19 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
masonReloaded <jonmaso  2008-03-02 06:25:10 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-02 08:51:08 
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"Aboli Bibelot"  2008-03-04 22:57:28 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-02 08:12:48 
Re: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-03-02 07:14:37 
Re: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Aboli Bibelot"  2008-03-04 23:06:51 
Re: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-04 21:24:10 
Re: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-05 18:27:01 
Re: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Ryan Robbins"   2008-03-11 18:30:53 
Re: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
s0183616 <s0183616@[EM  2008-03-12 20:12:52 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-03-02 09:56:25 
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The Translucent Amoebae &  2008-03-02 11:13:47 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-03-02 20:49:52 
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JordanLund <lundj@[EMA  2008-03-02 10:44:11 
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thelostguy@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-03-02 19:04:00 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-03 18:52:48 
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robgood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-03 22:16:35 
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"George Avalos"  2008-03-04 07:07:09 
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Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-04 07:42:14 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-04 12:30:38 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-04 19:44:13 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-04 21:27:38 
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Andrew <thecroft@[EMAI  2008-03-04 23:58:06 
Re: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
letsmakethewaterturnblack  2008-03-04 22:18:36 

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