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Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?

by John Schilling <schillin@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 3, 2008 at 06:52 PM

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:32:51 -0500, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>In January 2005, Damon Lindelof discussed "Lost" in an interview:
>
>"We're still trying to be ... firmly ensconced in the world of science 
>fact.  I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet ... that has 
>no rational explanation in the real world that we all function within. 
>We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and ... things 
>being in a place where they probably shouldn't be. But nothing is 
>flat-out impossible. There are no space****ps. There isn't any time
travel."

>http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html

>Well, didn't this new episode, "The Constant," involve at least a 
>teensy-weensy little bit of time travel???

They will predictably claim that it isn't "time travel" if it doesn't
involve an actual body moving through time.  Which is preposterous;
the troublesome aspects of time travel come into play the moment one
conveys any sort of *information* from the (relative) future to the
past.  Such as memories.


>And BTW, do you think that Lindelof's definition of "science fact" might 
>just be a trifle elastic, to cover all the phenomena we've seen on the
show?

I think these people may seriously believe that SCIENCE! can do ANYTHING!.
Hey, look at EINSTEIN, man!  And HAWKING and QUANTUM MECHANICS and all
that stuff!  And none of it is fiction!  It's SCIENCE!

They aren't lying to us.  They are merely ignorant.  They believe that
fictional stories about fictional science aren't science fiction unless
they involve fictional *future* science or fictional *extraterrestrial*
science.  Rockets and Rayguns stuff.  When in fact the term and the
genre has always encompassed stories about contem****ary scientists
discovering or inventing something amazing and thus setting in motion
interesting events.

And they fail to recognize that things like "electromagnetic anomalies",
techno-psychic time travel, magic numbers and the impossible web of
conspiracy and coincidence tying all this together, are just as far
out on the wierd-ometer, just as scientifically ridiculous and just
as solidly in the real of science fiction, as the bit wher Doctor
Zarkov builds a warp-drive star****p in his garage and flys off to
Planet Mongo.

Heck, that would be *more* plausible, on account of we can make it
happen with only *one* bit of high wierdness, one impossible thing
to believe before breakfast.  But the space****p would make people
point at that story and say, "Science Fiction!", whereas the absence
of a space****p on _Lost_ makes them miss that fact.


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"Steven L." <  2008-03-01 23:32:51 
Re: LOST: Have the Producers Lied To Us?
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-02 17:39:41 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-02 00:47:06 
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Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-02 11:42:48 
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Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-03 09:02:31 
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"Ernie Sty" <  2008-03-05 18:16:37 
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thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-06 00:39:39 
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"Ernie Sty" <  2008-03-05 19:00:29 
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Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-03 08:58:51 
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Andrew <thecroft@[EMAI  2008-03-02 21:54:28 
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"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-03-02 20:46:23 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-02 22:59:18 
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"Ernie Sty" <  2008-03-05 18:18:43 
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Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-03 02:25:55 
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thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-01 23:56:12 
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A Watcher <stocksami@[  2008-03-01 20:58:51 
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thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-02 00:31:30 
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jojo <jojlolo@[EMAIL P  2008-03-02 01:37:08 
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"Steven L." <  2008-03-02 09:24:18 
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Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-03 08:56:24 
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jojo <jojlolo@[EMAIL P  2008-03-02 08:30:26 
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The Translucent Amoebae &  2008-03-02 10:59:42 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-02 12:40:07 
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rilynil <nadams65@[EMA  2008-03-03 20:00:28 
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Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-04 10:12:51 
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"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-03-04 16:11:10 
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Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-04 19:34:53 
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"Ryan Robbins"   2008-03-11 22:42:17 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-12 16:01:47 
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Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-13 17:26:12 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 15:47:41 
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jayembee <jayembeenosp  2008-03-02 05:35:14 
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Robert <rmiller@[EMAIL  2008-03-02 05:58:19 
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masonReloaded <jonmaso  2008-03-02 06:25:10 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-02 08:51:08 
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"Aboli Bibelot"  2008-03-04 22:57:28 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-02 08:12:48 
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tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-03-02 07:14:37 
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"Aboli Bibelot"  2008-03-04 23:06:51 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-04 21:24:10 
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Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-03-05 18:27:01 
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"Ryan Robbins"   2008-03-11 18:30:53 
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s0183616 <s0183616@[EM  2008-03-12 20:12:52 
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Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-03-02 09:56:25 
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The Translucent Amoebae &  2008-03-02 11:13:47 
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"Victor Velazquez&qu  2008-03-02 20:49:52 
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JordanLund <lundj@[EMA  2008-03-02 10:44:11 
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thelostguy@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-03-02 19:04:00 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-03 18:52:48 
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robgood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-03 22:16:35 
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"George Avalos"  2008-03-04 07:07:09 
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Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-04 07:42:14 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-04 12:30:38 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-04 19:44:13 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-04 21:27:38 
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Andrew <thecroft@[EMAI  2008-03-04 23:58:06 
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letsmakethewaterturnblack  2008-03-04 22:18:36 

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