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Re: Star Trek - Enterprise - Season 4

by Zombie Elvis <DELETEMETOREPLYrobertocastillo@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 4, 2008 at 02:30 AM

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:46:27 -0500, Jack Bohn <jackbohn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>Zombie Elvis wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:49:42 -0800, A Watcher
>><stocksami@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>I liked STE also.  It was quit different from the other Trek series so 
>>>many of the Trek fans didn't like it much.  I didn't like the other
Trek 
>>>series nearly as much as STE, but different strokes for different
folks.
>>
>>Interesting comment. As a longtime Trekkie (I grew up on TOS, enjoyed
>>TNG, loved DS9, and hated Voyager), I felt that the opposite was true
>>-- Enterprise was too much like other Trek series, specifically it was
>>too much like TNG. It was as if B&B had taken all of their rejected
>>ideas from TNG and Voyager and put them into Enterprise, sometimes
>>without even bothering to change the names.
>
>I've wondered if ENTERPRISE is not so much "Star Trek for people
>who don't like Star Trek," as "Star Trek for people who don't
>know much Star Trek."  You have Enterprise with a Vulcan first
>officer flying for something called Starfleet, which -- if you're
>not going to say "Beam me up, Scotty," or "He's dead, Jim" -- are
>about all John Q. Public needs for Star Trek, the rest can be
>cobbled together from parts of Buck Rogers or Star****p Troopers.

You might be on to something. I can remember all the fanboyisms when
Enterprise started up: "Wait a minute, wasn't Spock supposed to be the
first Vulcan in Starfleet? Wait a minute, what happened to the UESP --
didn't that come before Starfleet? Wait a minute, that's just an Akira
class ****p with rightside up nacelles!" I dismissed a lot of it myself
at first but they kept throwing TNGisms at me every other week: Earth
was a perfect, peaceful, paradise a full century before a
super-advanced alien dismisses humans as "still half savage." They
used "phase pistols" instead of "phasors" and added "photonic
torpedoes" instead of "photon torpedoes." In one episode Archer gets
all self-righteous about alien hunters as in a manner reminiscent of
Riker's comment about enslaving animals for food in TNG's first
season. The longer I watched the harder it was to escape the feeling
that I was watching a bad copy of TNG.

That's what makes it so surprising when someone says that Enterprise
was different from other Trek series -- superficially maybe but the
cliches were the same.
--
"Please captain, not in front of the Klingons."
         -- Spock

Roberto Castillo
robertocastillo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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"Mac Breck" <  2008-02-12 17:20:05 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-12 23:09:36 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-13 10:30:33 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-02-13 07:36:12 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-13 16:50:53 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-02-14 08:11:51 
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"Mac Breck" <  2008-03-01 21:07:26 
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Zombie Elvis <DELETEME  2008-03-02 19:02:43 
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"Mac Breck" <  2008-03-02 22:09:30 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-03 14:00:18 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-03 09:51:36 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-13 02:37:49 
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"Mac Breck" <  2008-02-14 05:52:48 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-14 17:09:14 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-02-14 18:34:23 
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"Mac Breck" <  2008-02-17 19:16:32 
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A Watcher <stocksami@[  2008-02-18 20:49:42 
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"Mac Breck" <  2008-02-19 00:19:27 
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Zombie Elvis <DELETEME  2008-03-02 19:10:20 
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Jack Bohn <jackbohn@[E  2008-03-03 08:46:27 
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Zombie Elvis <DELETEME  2008-03-04 02:30:42 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-20 15:30:22 
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"Mac Breck" <  2008-02-20 21:14:03 
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jewahe <j.hanvey@[EMAI  2008-02-14 13:05:01 
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Zombie Elvis <DELETEME  2008-03-02 19:00:11 
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"Mac Breck" <  2008-03-02 22:16:12 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-03 09:50:24 
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Zombie Elvis <DELETEME  2008-03-04 02:34:40 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-04 08:51:46 

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