On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:32:54 GMT, jayembee <jayembeenospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
>Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> I find it ludicrous that he can make a brand new desk and
>>>> nobody can tell it wasn't made the week before.
>>> Why?
>> Either it's obvious it was varnished yesterday, or it's obvious
>> the wood was worked yesterday.
>You've never actually looked at finished furniture, have you?
>Unless the varnish is still wet or sticky, you can't really
>tell if it was finished two days ago, two weeks ago, or two
>years ago.
Maybe he can't, and maybe you can't, but neither of you are
experts who are in the business of paying out tens of thousands
of dollars for antique furniture. I'm pretty sure they *can*
tell.
>> Now, if the buyer had said "too bad you just had it restored,
>> that knocks the price down $20,000" they might have been on
>> to something.
>How do you know that he wasn't assuming that it was refinished,
>and that $60K is the market value for a refinished piece?
Because if $60K *were* the market value for a refinished piece
of antique furniture, and if refinished antique furniture were
indistinguishable from just-made "antique" furniture, the market
for antique furniture would be so flooded by forgeries done by
people - ordinary non-immortal skilled carpenter people - looking
for a $60K paycheck, that the market value wouldn't be $60K any
more.
>Why is one line of dialogue necessary for you to accept that it
>isn't an issue?
Probably because he understands basic economics. The existence of
a market where antique furniture sells for $60K, implies the ability
to reliably distinguish between actual antique furniture and newly
made furniture in an antique style. Furthermore, if "refini****ng"
antique furniture made it indistinguishable from modern furniture,
such refini****ng would *completely* destroy the furniture's value
as an antique, not just reduce it a bit.
It can be fixed with a relatively simple fanwank - Amsterdam is by
virtue of his centuries of experience a Very Very Good Carpenter,
who can make furniture that will sell for $60K even though everyone
knows it was made yesterday, because it is just that good. But that
doesn't require or allow the whole "antiquity" scam, and it is an
issue that we need to start fanwanking such things this early.
It might just be a minor glitch, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth
mentioning.
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