In article <27f1t352vo9pp1qb9hum9na9eq4qg0g0mi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
John Schilling <schillin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:32:54 GMT, jayembee <jayembeenospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
> >Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >>>> I find it ludicrous that he can make a brand new desk and
> >>>> nobody can tell it wasn't made the week before.
>
> >>> Why?
>
> >> Either it's obvious it was varnished yesterday, or it's obvious
> >> the wood was worked yesterday.
>
> >You've never actually looked at finished furniture, have you?
> >Unless the varnish is still wet or sticky, you can't really
> >tell if it was finished two days ago, two weeks ago, or two
> >years ago.
>
> Maybe he can't, and maybe you can't, but neither of you are
> experts who are in the business of paying out tens of thousands
> of dollars for antique furniture. I'm pretty sure they *can*
> tell.
Yes, exactly.
>
> >> Now, if the buyer had said "too bad you just had it restored,
> >> that knocks the price down $20,000" they might have been on
> >> to something.
>
> >How do you know that he wasn't assuming that it was refinished,
> >and that $60K is the market value for a refinished piece?
>
> Because if $60K *were* the market value for a refinished piece
> of antique furniture, and if refinished antique furniture were
> indistinguishable from just-made "antique" furniture, the market
> for antique furniture would be so flooded by forgeries done by
> people - ordinary non-immortal skilled carpenter people - looking
> for a $60K paycheck, that the market value wouldn't be $60K any
> more.
>
>
> >Why is one line of dialogue necessary for you to accept that it
> >isn't an issue?
>
> Probably because he understands basic economics. The existence of
> a market where antique furniture sells for $60K, implies the ability
> to reliably distinguish between actual antique furniture and newly
> made furniture in an antique style. Furthermore, if "refini****ng"
> antique furniture made it indistinguishable from modern furniture,
> such refini****ng would *completely* destroy the furniture's value
> as an antique, not just reduce it a bit.
>
> It can be fixed with a relatively simple fanwank - Amsterdam is by
> virtue of his centuries of experience a Very Very Good Carpenter,
> who can make furniture that will sell for $60K even though everyone
> knows it was made yesterday, because it is just that good. But that
> doesn't require or allow the whole "antiquity" scam, and it is an
> issue that we need to start fanwanking such things this early.
>
> It might just be a minor glitch, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth
> mentioning.
Thank you for saying all that better than I was.
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