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Re: Thoughts on how the Terminator TV series will end?

by "Obveeus" <Obveeus@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 9, 2008 at 12:53 PM

"bllbickel" <billbickel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Mar 6, 7:31 pm, "Obveeus" <Obve...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> T3 had it right...you can mess with the little
>> details, but in the end the 'future' is an unalterable fate.
>
> That's one theory of time travel I could NEVER understand: Either it's
> changeable or it's not. Saying that little details can be changed but
> that the "big stuff" is inevitable, implies there's a Time Fairy who
> decides what's im****tant and what isn't and alters the laws of time
> travel accordingly.

Time fairy?  Ok, if that is your generic way of explaining that 'a higher 
power' exists.
The future having an unalterable fate is a way of expplaining time travel
in 
a world where God exists.

If you want to ignore the possibility of God and just discuss reality: 
the 
reality of the matter is that TIME TRAVEL IS NOT REAL.
Time travel is simply the wanking fantasy of 'Sci-Fi' followers.

Therefore, there can be no discussion of 'fact'.  There can only be 
discussion as to the logical consistency of the representation of the 
fantasy work in question.

T1:  closed time loop works as a consistent film.  Changeable time loop 
still works as long as people can get passe dth aasumption 9not stated
fact) 
that John knew kyle would be his father.

T2:  changealble time loop where somehow the people that time travel are 
immune to the effects.  I personally think this concept of immunity is a 
pathetically weakminded version of time travel, but it is what most time 
travel stories involve.  Some people write this off as an infinite number
of 
universes each with its own timeline and the time travellers hoping
between 
them.  The film is consistent, though.

T3:  changeable time loops, but some 'fate' will lead to roughtly the same

conclusion anyway.  This still involves the time traveller being immune to

the changes made in time.  the film is consistent 9even moreso than T2), 
though.

T:SCC:  operating like T2/T3 so far,  consistent so far because of the 
'magical' belief that the time travellers are immune to the effects they 
make on the future.

All of these programs are NOT consistent in terms of the extremely
farcical 
premise that nothing metal can be passed throuhg the time machine.
Why don't they carry suitcases covered in flesh since big piles of metal 
covered in flesh can pass?  How can liquid metal pass as flesh?  How did 
that head pass throuhg the time ****thole in T:SCC?
 




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Thoughts on how the Terminator TV series will end?
Richard C. Qunt <r.c.q  2008-03-05 02:51:53 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-05 05:37:08 
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David B <bothecat3@[EM  2008-03-04 20:51:07 
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"Steven J." <  2008-03-05 00:09:21 
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Richard C. Qunt <r.c.q  2008-03-05 23:18:12 
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swyck <adze@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-05 20:40:50 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-06 05:57:30 
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"legal process"  2008-03-05 17:03:47 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-05 23:08:13 
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"legal process"  2008-03-06 03:20:19 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 06:50:24 
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Padmar Mushkin <x@[EMA  2008-03-06 10:14:37 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 11:22:58 
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shawn <nanoflower@[EMA  2008-03-14 15:32:29 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-06 15:38:20 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-06 14:47:05 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 15:58:42 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-06 15:07:05 
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"Joetheone" <  2008-03-06 21:52:48 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-06 17:24:34 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 19:31:54 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-06 20:31:51 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 23:09:05 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 01:05:25 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-14 00:28:13 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 01:58:30 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-14 02:21:44 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 08:18:33 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-14 12:28:18 
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"Default User"   2008-03-14 16:57:34 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 15:59:33 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-14 12:30:01 
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je.s.te.r@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 09:47:06 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 11:23:26 
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je.s.te.r@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 11:10:33 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 16:02:08 
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je.s.te.r@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 11:11:33 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 18:39:52 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 15:58:52 
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pgalimatias@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-07 18:43:20 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-07 16:22:14 
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pgalimatias@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 15:57:04 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-08 11:33:12 
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"karl" <kona  2008-03-08 17:43:48 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-03-09 03:00:00 
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"karl" <kona  2008-03-08 21:12:21 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-03-09 03:00:00 
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"karl" <kona  2008-03-09 04:48:43 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-03-09 18:31:21 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-09 04:32:08 
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Michael Bowker <mikeb@  2008-03-08 20:41:50 
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Michael Bowker <mikeb@  2008-03-08 20:46:17 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-08 22:05:35 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-08 21:36:18 
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Michael Bowker <mikeb@  2008-03-08 22:00:25 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-09 00:28:17 
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Michael Bowker <mikeb@  2008-03-08 23:33:11 
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bllbickel <billbickel@  2008-03-08 21:49:33 
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"Joetheone" <  2008-03-09 06:45:27 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-11 20:19:05 
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"Joetheone" <  2008-03-11 20:21:56 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 01:08:44 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-09 12:53:40 
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"karl" <kona  2008-03-06 10:53:14 
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