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Re: Thoughts on how the Terminator TV series will end?

by George W Harris <gharrus@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 14, 2008 at 08:18 AM

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:21:44 -0500, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

:George W Harris <gharrus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
:>On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:28:13 -0500, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
:>>George W Harris <gharrus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
:>>>On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:07:05 -0600, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
:
:>>>>Terry Gilliam got it right in "Twelve Monkeys". Bruce Willis refused
to
:>>>>believe in time paradoxes, kept telling all the psychiatrist that
it's
:>>>>all unalterable history, although that turns out not to be the case.
:
:>>>	eh?  What history was altered in "Twelve Monkeys"?
:
:>>He didn't realize that Madeleine Stowe's phone call would instigate the
:>>events that followed.
:
:>	Right.  That's not a change, though.  That's just 
:>discovering new information.
:
:The point was that Bruce Willis's character was at the center of events
:too, but he was wrong about his own historic role, thinking that it was
:his influence on the industrialist's son.

	Right, just as Kyle Reese was at the center of 
events in "Terminator"; that doesn't eliminate the 
scenario of an unchanging past.
:
:>	This is what some people call a paradox but which I 
:>prefer to call a causal loop to distinguish it from instances 
:>where you can change the past and doing so creates an 
:>inconsistency (killing an ancestor before he/she reproduces, 
:>for example).  It's a little mind-bending, but there's no 
:>changing of the past involved.
:
:Heh. I don't recall Bruce Willis expressing his belief in causality.

	Well, he did say stuff about "it's in the past, it's already
happened".
:
:It's a good movie, one of the best thing's Willis has ever done. I
:suppose it's taken years for a substantial number of people to have seen
:it, as almost no one saw it in the theaters. I don't recall the movie
:being advertised when it was released.
:
:>	There's an excellent Spanish sci-fi movie called 
:>"Timecrimes", or "Los Cronocrímenes" that I recently saw at 
:>the Nevermore Film Festival.
:
:Thanks for the recommendation.

	Unfortunately, it appears to be unavailable in any 
format in the U.S.  Also unfortunately, it may be being 
remade by Hollywood.  So unless you frequent film 
festivals, you're unlikely to be able to see it.
-- 
e^(i*pi)+1=0

George W. Harris  For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'.
 




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Thoughts on how the Terminator TV series will end?
Richard C. Qunt <r.c.q  2008-03-05 02:51:53 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-05 05:37:08 
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David B <bothecat3@[EM  2008-03-04 20:51:07 
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"Steven J." <  2008-03-05 00:09:21 
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Richard C. Qunt <r.c.q  2008-03-05 23:18:12 
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swyck <adze@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-05 20:40:50 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-06 05:57:30 
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"legal process"  2008-03-05 17:03:47 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-05 23:08:13 
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"legal process"  2008-03-06 03:20:19 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 06:50:24 
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Padmar Mushkin <x@[EMA  2008-03-06 10:14:37 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 11:22:58 
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shawn <nanoflower@[EMA  2008-03-14 15:32:29 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-06 15:38:20 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-06 14:47:05 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 15:58:42 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-06 15:07:05 
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"Joetheone" <  2008-03-06 21:52:48 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-06 17:24:34 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 19:31:54 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-06 20:31:51 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-06 23:09:05 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 01:05:25 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-14 00:28:13 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 01:58:30 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-14 02:21:44 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 08:18:33 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-14 12:28:18 
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"Default User"   2008-03-14 16:57:34 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 15:59:33 
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"Adam H. Kerman"  2008-03-14 12:30:01 
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je.s.te.r@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 09:47:06 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 11:23:26 
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je.s.te.r@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 11:10:33 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 16:02:08 
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je.s.te.r@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 11:11:33 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 18:39:52 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 15:58:52 
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pgalimatias@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-07 18:43:20 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-07 16:22:14 
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pgalimatias@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 15:57:04 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-08 11:33:12 
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"karl" <kona  2008-03-08 17:43:48 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-03-09 03:00:00 
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"karl" <kona  2008-03-08 21:12:21 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-03-09 03:00:00 
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"karl" <kona  2008-03-09 04:48:43 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-03-09 18:31:21 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-09 04:32:08 
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Michael Bowker <mikeb@  2008-03-08 20:41:50 
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Michael Bowker <mikeb@  2008-03-08 20:46:17 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-08 22:05:35 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-08 21:36:18 
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Michael Bowker <mikeb@  2008-03-08 22:00:25 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-09 00:28:17 
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Michael Bowker <mikeb@  2008-03-08 23:33:11 
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bllbickel <billbickel@  2008-03-08 21:49:33 
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"Joetheone" <  2008-03-09 06:45:27 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-11 20:19:05 
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"Joetheone" <  2008-03-11 20:21:56 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-03-14 01:08:44 
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"Obveeus" <O  2008-03-09 12:53:40 
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"karl" <kona  2008-03-06 10:53:14 
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