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Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoilers)

by ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Lanciani) Mar 15, 2008 at 04:08 AM

In article <JxqqKF.Jz8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, sef@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Sean Eric Fagan)
writes:
| In article <1346944@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Dan Lanciani <ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
| >There is no reason to believe that
| >moving to Locke's camp reduces the chance of leaving the island.
| 
| Only if you haven't been paying as much attention as she has.

It's impossible to share Julitte's (I assume that's who you mean by "she")
perspective because (a) she reveals little of what she has observed, (b)
what she does reveal almost always turns out to be at least in part a
lie, and (c) her flashbacks are so incongruous that any mildly plausible
explanation (e.g., she was a spy for yet another rival faction all along)
is going to seriously distort the meaning of the (supposedly) direct
evidence.

On the other hand, I've observed enough of Juliette's own behavior to
assign a negative weight to any suggestion she might make.  It's clear
that she isn't actually concerned for Sun's life since she hasn't
mentioned
the simple solution of an abortion (or at least explained why it wouldn't
work).

| Locke *killed someone*, in cold blood, *just because she was making a
phone
| call*.

I suspect that Locke at least believed he had a compelling reason to shoot
Naomi to try to prevent the phone call much as Juliette believed she had a
valid reason to shoot her fellow Other and Jack believed he had a valid
reason to (try to) shoot Locke.  I'm not sure that this affects the
analysis,
though.  I have a hard time picturing the boat folks announcing that they
will
rescue the people on the beach but not the ones who went with Locke
because
Locke is evil.

Mind you, I don't think Locke is a good guy, but on a continuum his
management
of his asset/guest is closer to the mark than Jack's.  The grenade is a
bit
much, but restrained and interrogated is more appropriate than having the
run
of the island and disclosing nothing of use.  Locke may be doing the right
things for the wrong reasons.

| He has made it perfectly clear he doesn't want to leave the island, and
that
| he doesn't think any of them should be leaving the island.

Exactly.  He doesn't think _any_ of them should leave the island, perhaps
in part because he believes that if any leave he will be forced to leave.
If he remains true to form he may well try a brute force approach like
blowing up the ****p, possibly with Ben's help.  If he succeeds the people
on the beach won't be any more able to leave than Locke's group.

| So, yes, I think the odds of being rescued drop significantly if Sun
were to
| go with Locke's group.

Being in Locke's group offers the possible advantage of discovering his
plans and maybe even helping to stop him from sabotaging all rescue.  This
has to be weighed against scenarios where Locke keeps only his own group
from being rescued.  I don't think he has yet reached the point of, say,
getting them to drink poisoned Kool-Aid, and since we are assuming in this
case that the beach group does get rescued there is no incremental risk to
Locke in allowing any particular member of his group to leave as well.  He
might turn on the fence (is it in the right place?) "for their own good"
but again that doesn't really help him.  On balance I think the more
people
in Locke's group who want to leave, the better the chance of rescue for
everybody.

				Dan Lanciani
				ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoilers)
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-14 06:21:59 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
"Unique" <ak  2008-03-14 12:30:56 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-14 21:23:54 
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sef@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (S  2008-03-14 22:02:39 
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ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-15 04:08:43 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-15 08:40:47 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
"Dano" <jane  2008-03-14 18:48:35 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-14 19:02:03 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
Barry Margolin <barmar  2008-03-14 23:09:15 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-15 04:51:10 
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"intangible103@[EMAI  2008-03-14 16:20:14 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
"Unique" <ak  2008-03-14 20:59:42 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
ravenlynne <ravenlynne  2008-03-20 15:53:28 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-20 10:01:17 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
ravenlynne <ravenlynne  2008-03-20 16:39:16 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
Edward McArdle <mcardl  2008-03-21 13:52:23 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
Andrew <thecroft@[EMAI  2008-03-25 23:02:30 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
Zombie Elvis <DELETEME  2008-03-15 03:14:15 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-15 07:40:58 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-15 09:44:00 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-16 07:40:56 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-03-16 07:57:01 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
The Translucent Amoebae &  2008-03-18 15:35:29 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
"Dano" <jane  2008-03-18 18:47:35 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
TNKev <TNKevtoo@[EMAIL  2008-03-18 17:45:44 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
"Dano" <jane  2008-03-18 19:48:22 
Re: Lost--Now you see why Juliet lies so much ("Ji Yeon" spoiler
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-03-18 20:48:49 

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