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> Okey dokey...
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> Gwen finds out Andy still has a thing for her (duh!)
So I guess Gwen is stupid (duh)
and gets guilted
> into looking into the case of a missing boy.
And actually believes Jack came racing up in the Torchwoodmobile minutes
later by coincidence!
So I guess Gwen is stupid (duh)
When she finds out how
> many people are missing, it takes on a whole new urgency. Gwen
> discovers Jack is somehow involved Yay Ianto! Maybe. Ianto feeding her
> this info, what does it say about what is going on in his head?
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> Jack is fierce and harsh and mean, and of course turns out to be
> protecting people rather than imprisoning them. Because he is our hero.
Of course, this doesn't tip Gwen off at all.
So I guess Gwen is stupid (duh)
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> Thought of the week... sometimes it's better to be paternalistic and
> not give people what they think they want.
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> Wait, do I like that as a moral?
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> How about: we all need hope to get through, even when it's unrealistic
> hope.
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> Not sure I like that one any better.
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> THE GOOD
> +Jack and Ianto getting caught was silly, but fun
> +Gwen and Rhys fighting - good because there SHOULD be some
> consequences, and sometimes Rhys needs to insist on them having a life.
Gwen needs help. She doesn't want kids, and she doesn't want anybody
else to join Torchwood. She's got a lot of problems brewing.
> +Gwen and Rhys coming together in the end
> + Ianto leading Gwen to the truth - I like the backbone
Well, squishy backbone, leaving anonymous notes and all.
> + There is nothing in the episode that can be twisted to work as the
> cheapening of Tosh
LOL, good point, they didn't give her enough to do.
She probably fell in love with several of the 'missing' posters.
> + There is nothing in this episode that Owen does that is hateful.
Untrue. He ignored Gwen at the conference table, said 'that's that' and
got up and left like she was just imagining stuff. What else has a dead
guy got to do?
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> THE BAD
> + How is it Gwen as a cop had no idea that Cardiff had this missing
> persons problem?
I can see where Gwen doesn't look at the regular cop re****ts any more,
and Jack kept Torchwood from noticing it, but how did ANDY not know?
> +It's never occurred to people before that the rift might be taking
people?
What the hell was the 'it never occured to us anything might go INTO the
rift business?' in the first place? We've seen lots of stuff go into
the rift.
> +How'd the boy's head get all swollen and mishapen? I get that there
> was fire, so that explains the scarring and the baldness, but...
> + Who rescued that boy?
He got aboard the last ****p leaving the planet, but who gave him a ride
back to Earth is a question.
> + Ianto leading Gwen to the truth - It worries me about the team
dynamics
Big time. But it makes me wonder -- Jack knew, Lanto knew. Did
EVERYBODY else know, which would explain why Owen was so quick to blow
her off?
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> The Maybe
> + It's a Jack lite episode
> + It's an Owen lite episode
> + It's a Tosh lite episode
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> Overall the episode works better as character development than it
> does as a storyline. And since I am a sucker for character development,
> it works for me. (Hey, I still love Anita Blake!) But it was a story
> that needed to be told, too. It's perfectly obvious that if things are
> brought through The Rift one way, then it's going to work both ways.
So I guess Gwen is stupid (duh)
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> In ways I think we even are developing The Rift as a character in
> it's own right. Jack at least seems to be anthropomorphizing... musing
> that the rift is returning more people, as if trying to correct a
mistake.
Yeah, that was a 'wtf' moment. Especially since the one story we heard
didn't have the rift returning the boy; he got a ride in a space****p and
then a time machine.
The elephant in the room for me is: Why the hell didn't they give the
boy's mother the amnesia drug? She found out all about Torchwood and
the secret facility and she didn't WANT to know. She was BEGGING to
forget. She's not going to visit the son again. She's mad at them, and
knows their secrets (and blames them for no good reason). Being as they
dosed Gwen's entire wedding 'cause something creepy was running around,
you'd think this would be the prototype case for drugging somebody. Or
offering them the drug, to take voluntarily.
So I guess Gwen is stupid (duh)
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