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Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King

by Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 11:13 PM

In article <nebusj.1208748265@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 nebusj-@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Joseph Nebus) wrote:

> The Conscience of the King
> The Plot:
> 	Kirk suspects the leader of a Shakespearean troupe is Kodos the
> Executioner, presumed dead for 20 years.  (Tivo)
> 
> 
> 	If there's one revolution in crime and punishment of the past
> generation it's the explosion in forensics data, particularly as it's
> ****trayed on television.  Oh, yes, we can do astounding things these
> days with studying trace compounds in various settings, and particularly
> in establi****ng identity through genetic materials.  It's all the more
> amazing in forensics-based shows like CSI, in which a couple stray
> molecules allow for the complete establishment of guilt and innocence,
> with no human judgement needed past the decision to enhance the four
> pixels blown up to full screen width in order to read the license plate
> in the reflection of the eye of the person seen in the chrome plate on
> the rim of the ATM booth by way of the security camera.
> 
> 	Which is, ultimately, bad news for 'The Conscience of the King',
> since its central driving Macguffin is the question of whether this
> person Anton Karidian is the person known as Kodos the Executioner. 
> Anyone can admire Kirk's respect for civil liberties that he didn't have
> Anton Karidian arrested pending genetic analysis, but given the string
> of cir***stantial evidence surrounding him, it seems as though
> requesting a skin or hair sample and comparing it to the surely present
> records of the real Kodos would be quite possible and most likely within
> Kirk's prerogatives as star****p captain.
> 
> 	But that kind of misses the point: part of the plot is that Kirk
> can't have his intellectual certainty in establi****ng Karidian's
> identity.  We see this in the voice analysis, the biometric print of the
> 1960s.  It may be precise but Kirk's demanding more than simply a
> statistical analysis.  More precise tests wouldn't address that plot
> need.
> 
> 	And in an unusual moment for Star Trek, as things would turn
> out, we don't get real certainty about just what happened twenty years
> ago on Tarsus IV.  I mean, we know there's the food shortage, the murder
> of half a colony in the hopes of saving the other half, the supply ****ps
> arriving ahead of schedule, and the presumed death of Kodos back then. 
> But we don't get some key things, like: why didn't the supply ****ps
> notify the colony they would be early?  Or did they, and did Kodos carry
> out the executions anyway?  Was anyone besides Kodos participant to the
> execution?  How did Kirk hear Kodos's execution speech without being
> killed?  Riley lost his parents to Kodos; did Kirk lose anyone?  What
> did the nine eyewitnesses witness, anyway?
> 
> 	The supply ****ps being out of contact serves some role in the
> setting: it's obviously meant to evoke the idea of the days of sailing
> ****ps, when vessels and colonies would go months or years without
> contact, and trans****tation could be weeks ahead or behind schedule
> without anyone being able to predict it.  That's good for establi****ng
> space as big and really empty and lonely, as done so very well in the
> early episodes of the first season, although it's hard to reconcile with
> subspace radios and scanners that can reach out dozens of light-years.
> 
> 	So in technical points this episode is a mess.  It's an attempt
> to do a story mostly plausible in the Age of Sail, but without the
> adaptations needed for the technology of the 23rd century, even in the
> first season when they hadn't picked a century for this to be in yet.
> 
> 	And yet it's emotionally plausible, at least to me.  It's hard
> not to sympathize with Kodos's original situation -- it's a large
> version of the problem of the leaking lifeboat -- and to be horrified
> with the result.  It's also hard not to empathize with Kirk's problem:
> he wants to be certain about Kodos, and he just can't gain emotional
> certainty through purely intellectual methods.  Kirk's usually quicker
> to decide in this sort of thing, but it is a problem unusually
> emotionally close to him, and we never do quite learn just how close.
> 
> 
> Thoughts While Watching:
> 	- You figure the first time this was on the science fiction
> fanboys in the audience turned the picture off at the first image when
> it was some corny Shakespeare thing instead of the Star Trek they
> wanted?
> 
> 	- ``That's Kodos ... the executioner.''  
> 	TOM: And before the episode is over that'll mean something.  
> 
> 	- Neat new view above the Enterprise orbiting the planet.
> 
> 	- A presumed new food would be of useful to one nearby planet? 
> It wouldn't be useful to all Earth outposts?

Maybe only Signia Minor has a specific problem with their soil or 
something.
> 
> 	- Three light years off your course?  That's not much of a
> burden, we would discover in later episodes, when space isn't quite so
> big.
> 
> 	- Hey, Kirk's using Google By Voice.
> 
> 	- Stardate 2794.7 was the date Kodos did something or other. 
> This episode is stardate 2817.6.  This would seem to suggest that
> stardates loop around the 10,000 mark, which makes it a little less
> taxing that the Five Year Mission runs from about stardate 1000 to 6000,
> while the movies go from about 7000 to 9000.

Actually, I won't give you that.  We don't know what happened on 2794.7 
except that there is detailed information marked with that date.  Could 
have been the date of a hearing or the release of a do***entary or 
anything.
> 
> 	- There's a Galactic Cultural Exchange going on.
> 
> 	- Man, driver's license photos in the 23rd century are no better
> than today.
> 
> 	- So, like, minutes after fleeing his mass murder, Anton
> Karidian fathered a child?  I mean, she is 19.  And that means Kirk is
> really pressing the limits of the xkcd-approved formula for creepiness
> in dating, although this could be characterized as tactical rather than
> romantic dating.

He could have fled with his pregnant concubine.
> 
> 	- Star Trek theme music as background cocktail party music. 
> It's so groovy, it seems to have scared off the whole cocktail party.
> 
> 	- They've got kindergarten art projects on the walls of
> Leighton's place.
> 
> 	- I don't know how William Ware Theiss was able to glaze Barbara
> Anderson, but I admit I'm glad he did.
> 
> 	- Benecia gets introduced to the Trek world, long enough to be
> later be a possible destination in 'Turnabout Intruder'.  I'm curious
> why the name stuck in, apparently, Gene Roddenberry's mind at least.
> 
> 	- Now, if Lenore Karidian did the murdering, and if Kirk was
> walking with her, couldn't she have guided Kirk away from the body?  By
> most any standard she's better off the longer the body goes unnoticed.
> 
> 	- You know, I had always had the impression that Leighton was
> the governor of that colony planet, but that doesn't seem to be
> sup****ted by what I saw on-screen.  Syndication cuts or did I
> interpolate something from the Blish novelization or something like
> that?
> 
> 	- Kirk knows the captain of the Astral Queen, because Kirk knows
> every captain of every ****p everywhere.
> 
> 	- And wasn't the Astral Queen the ****p that got destroyed for
> Isaac Asimov's first published short story ever?
> 
> 	- So people can just beam up to the ****p without getting
> approval from someone in authority?  Granting that maybe the
> quartermaster (or whoever) has permission, wouldn't he be reluctant to
> take new people aboard when they're scheduled to exit orbit?
> 
> 	- Now Spock's worried about an eight light-year diversion.
> 
> 	- Kirk does a lot of snapping at Spock in this bunch of
> episodes.  Was his 'Mind your own business, Mister Spock, I'm sick of
> your half-breed interference, do you hear?' used in 'What Are Little
> Girls Made Of?' as distinctive as he might have wished?
> 
> 	- 1500 Benecia Time?  I guess that's Benecia Greenwich time.

It's the Benecia colony.  No reason to assume that there's more than one 
time zone involved.
> 
> 	- In the novelization, Blish has Kirk get the names of
> survivors, but each is followed by a 'deceased', and Kirk complains that
> he didn't want those killed in the massacre, just those who survived. 
> The computer notes that they *did* survive, it's just they were killed
> afterwards.  
> 
> 	- And they're Star Service officers this week.  Star Fleet as a
> name can't get here soon enough.
> 
> 	- Now, what's McCoy been so busy with, given that nobody's died
> aboard ****p since last episode?
> 
> 	- ``My father's race was spared the dubious benefits of
> alcohol.''  ``Oh.  Now I know why they were conquered.''  Ah, this is a
> good line for setting off dumb Trekkie arguments.  Does Vulcan not have
> alcohol at all, or is it that Sarek's race within the Vulcan species
> that doesn't have it?  Of course, there's not much indication of races
> within Vulcan society other than that Tuvok's black and Spock's kind of
> greenish I suppose.
> 
> 	But Trek gets a lot of flak -- deservedly -- for treating All
> Aliens As One Kind.  Ethnic differences within Vulcans would be as
> natural as ethnic differences within humans, and all it really takes to
> establish them are a couple of lines of dialogue.  But was that in the
> mind of the show creators at the time?  They pretty much created the All
> Aliens As One Kind cliche, although a few episodes ('Bread and
> Circuses', 'A Private Little War', 'A Piece of the Action', 'The Omega
> Glory') explicitly work against that.
> 
> 	Still, whether Spock and McCoy's exchange was meant to refer to
> all Vulcan or just some Vulcans it gives us a Trek Inconsistency: if
> Spock was referring to all Vulcans doing without alcohol and McCoy to
> their being conquered, then how to reconcile this with Spock's comment
> in 'The Immunity Syndrome' about no Vulcan being able to (emotionally)
> conceive of the conquerer?
> 
> 	If just a subset of the species, then it seems like a failure of
> the collective imagination not to be able to go from the example of
> individual nations or races or groups or whatnot being conquered to the
> entire species being conquered.  Most would agree it was the European
> carving-up of Africa, for instance, that gave Western Civilization the
> collective fear of conquest from space (aided by H G Wells depicting it
> quite well, of course).  Why wouldn't the same process influence
> Vulcanian thinking?
> 
> 	And if it was all Vulcan which was conquered, who conquered
> them?
> 
> 	- WOR syndication-cut the whole scene after McCoy quipping about
> Vulcans being conquered, so that the slender point of the scene is lost
> entirely.  Yes, they need to make time for commercials, but leaving this
> little piece in is peculiar.
> 
> 	- By the way, why is it Scott gets the reputation for a drunk
> when it's McCoy who's explicitly longing for his liquor?
> 
> 	- Am I mistaken or does the observation deck have the doorways
> from Landru World?
> 
> 	- They do a neat bit of added effects by putting the creeping
> stars out the observation deck windows.
> 
> 	- I don't want to sulk, but shouldn't the observation deck have
> some windows that aren't above everybody's eye level?
> 
> 	- And the diurnal cycle is introduced to Trek technology.  This
> way people who live on third ****ft get to know they're on the lesser
> ****ft, even though there's not much reason they couldn't treat
> themselves as equally a day ****ft.
> 
> 	- Spock uses Google-by-Voice to check whether the murdered
> eyewitnesses had anything in common, the computer says, 'Affirmative',
> and Spock seems satisfied with the existence of some connection even
> though the presence on Tarsus IV would seem to satisfy the request.
> 
> 	- The governor of the colony orders mass murders, and there's
> nine eyewitnesses?  In a matter like this, would eyewitnesses be all
> that relevant?  Wouldn't it be all over YouTube anyway?  
> 
> 	- Uhura gets her second and pretty near final song in.  
> 
> 	- Oh, no!  The Shadow is spraying Riley's milk!  
> 
> 	- I wonder what Lenore Karidian planned to say if anyone caught
> her prowling the engineering decks while dressed as The Shadow and
> carrying a spray bottle of poison.
> 
> 	- Riley looks under his lid cover for his glass of milk?  
> 
> 	- You know, they should start, like, closing the doors of main
> engineering or something like that.
> 
> 	- ``Someone tried to kill him.''  ``It could have been an
> accident.''  
> 	CROW: Yeah, Windex gets in the milk all the time by accident.  
> 
> 	- I wonder if Star Fleet is ever going to come up with a
> lubricant or a coolant that isn't a deadly poison.  For the number of
> exposures they get, you know, it'd come in handy.
> 
> 	- You know, no star****p captain can go looking for dangerous
> criminals without being accused of looking for vengeance rather than
> justice.
> 
> 	- Planet Q?  Oh, no wonder Leighton died.  I'd die of
> embarrassment having to live on a planet with such a weak name. 
> Probably also why Kirk avoided saying what planet he was beaming down to
> all this time.
> 
> 	- So do phasers on overload make that alarming noise as a
> warning or as an unavoidable side effect?  
> 
> 	- Double red alert!
> 	TOM: Tip-top ultra-super-dooper secret red alert!  

Means the Captain is in personal danger.  :)
> 	
> 	- The huge empty light seems like a waste of space for a klaxon
> siren.  Also, is searching by hand really more efficient than having
> sensors look for the power buildup?
> 
> 	- ``Are you Kodos?  ... I asked you a question.''  
> 	CROW: Kirk's got all the subtlety of a Joint Congressional
> Inquiry.
> 
> 	- McCoy records Kirk's suspicions about Kodos right in front of
> Riley.  Maybe McCoy could go poking rabid dogs with sticks some too.
> 
> 	- Boy, Kirk could really use a blink comparator for those huge
> lines of scribbles.
> 	
> 	- What do you suppose McCoy was about to tell Riley not to
> forget to do?

Drink his milk.
> 
> 	- So, whose life signs are beeping out in the sickbay there? 
> Did Riley gimmick things to put on an endless loop, so as not to let
> McCoy know too early that he was gone?

You know, that would be a pain.  Every time you wanted to go to the 
bathroom, the table's going to scream that you're dead and set off an 
alarm.
> 
> 	- The ****p's Theater: Best use of two-thirds of the Engineering
> set they have.  Actually, we get two ****p segments we'd never seen
> before and won't see again this time around.
> 
> 	- In a few minutes, Kirk is going to kick himself for not
> setting the phaser to 'light stun' the moment he got control of it.
> 
> 	- Say, has any play-aboard-a-star****p ever *not* been broken up
> by some bizarre cir***stance?  
> 
> 	- ``I know how to use this, Captain!''
> 	CROW: Yeah, you press the one button on it.  
> 	
> 	- Remastered Benecia looks like a really lousy planet.
> 
> 	- So, do you suppose Lenore Karidian re-entered functional
> society?  Given the low number of irredeemably dangerously insane people
> and the lack of death penalty cases, it seems like just being a serial
> killer might be something a person can recover from.
> 
> 	- What do you suppose the rest of the Karidian Company Players
> made of this?  I mean, this is bizarre even for student theater company
> dynamics.
> 
> 	- In the credits: Music composed and conducted by MULLENDORE.  I
> would feel more comfortable if they included a first name there.  

Joseph Mullendore

He seems to have not used his first name on sci-fi shows.
> 
> 	- Directed, by the way, by Gerd ``your'' Oswald, who also
> directed The Alternative Factor and the Mystery Science Theater 3000
> experiment ``Agent From H.A.R.M.''  Competently, I'd point out, and with
> a respectable track record in TV directing.  It's just his name stands
> out once Mike and the Bots have drawn attention to it.  Arthur C Pierce 
> has a similar effect.

-- 
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.
http://www.disneysub.com/board/noshat.jpg
 




 11 Posts in Topic:
Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
nebusj-@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-20 23:25:02 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
Barry Margolin <barmar  2008-04-21 00:26:48 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-04-20 23:13:03 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
"Kestra" <ke  2008-04-21 06:54:00 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
Michael Bowker <mikeb@  2008-04-22 18:20:20 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
"Steven L." <  2008-04-23 00:44:23 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
Barry Margolin <barmar  2008-04-23 01:34:49 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
"Steven L." <  2008-04-23 13:16:38 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
JEDIDIAH <jedi@[EMAIL   2008-04-24 15:53:48 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
Ubiquitous <weberm@[EM  2008-04-29 05:30:13 
Re: Trek Remastered - The Conscience of the King
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