Re: Torchwood--So do they not have ***ual harrassment laws across

Ken from Chicago wrote:

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>>Ken from Chicago wrote:
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>>>>Ken from Chicago wrote:
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>>>>>"peachy a****e passion" <exquisitepeach@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>Ken from Chicago wrote:
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>>>>>>>The current status of ***ual harrassment in the US is largely a
result 
>>>>>>>of the fallout of the Clarence Thomas / Anita Hill affair nearly 2 
>>>>>>>decades ago (when the fiscal liberals split from the social
liberals 
>>>>>>>in long-running censor****p vs free speech debate and ceded the free

>>>>>>>speech argument and opted for their own censor****p based on what
has 
>>>>>>>become known as "political correctness", as opposed to the social 
>>>>>>>conservatives' "moral correctness"), resulting changes in public
mores 
>>>>>>>and laws in school, the government and at work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is there no similar event to trigger a similar stance in the public
or 
>>>>>>>the laws in the UK? Cuz they are ... ahem ... rather ... 
>>>>>>>"touchy-feely" ... at the Torchwood Institute in Cardiff. And their

>>>>>>>personal feelings have endangered the team, their mission and the 
>>>>>>>Earth, countless number of times in the past 2 seasons--and there's

>>>>>>>just a handful of them. Imagine what a fully-staffed TI London was 
>>>>>>>like.
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> I've thought about this for days and days, and frankly I don't know

>>>>>>what situation in Torchwood would be at issue in the US either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where do you see any ***ual harassment happening?
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>>>>>Personal (romantic) feelings are affecting professional performance.
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>>>>  I do not know what part of that is ***ual harrassment.
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>>>> It is sort of an inevitable part of being human, though.
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>>>That's the entire POINT of ***ual harrassment laws: To STOP having your

>>>job be affected because someone else is in love or lust with you--or
with 
>>>someone else--so that the job and your career should be affected only
by 
>>>merit.
>>>
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>>  To win that lawsuit you'd have to prove that the ***ual component 
>>changed behavior in a way beyond that of ordinary friend****p.
>>
>>  I don't think you can do that with Torchwood.
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> 
> Hello, Ianto stored his cybergirlfriend in the basement that threatened
the 
> team, the city, possibly the world.


    Perhaps, but I don't think she wants to sue him for harrassment.

  Certainly there was misconduct, but there is no harrassment.

> 
> Tosh was dating a cryofrozen WWI soldier and nearly blew the mission to
send 
> him back in time to restitch the spacetime continuum.

   Only Tosh dating the frozen soldier allowed her to complete the 
mission, so your entire premise is bogus.  However, even if your 
statement were true, two consensual adults engaged in a relation****p.

  There is no harrassment here.

> 
> Plus there overall personal feelings keep precluding them from a)
locking up 
> alien devices, b) having backup access in case a single team member is 
> incapacitated, c) having personal lives so as to vent all this pent up 
> emotion OUTSIDE of work.

    Again, you might be able to make a case for inappropriate behavior 
or misconduct.

   There is no ***ual harrassment.

> 
> They are a frelling ticking time bomb--sitting on a spacetime rift, pun 
> intended.


    Yes, they are.  There is a lot going on.

  None of it is ***ual harrassment.  ***ual harrassment isn't actually 
just a catch-all phrase that outlaws a worker from having ***ual or 
romantic feelings.  It requires an actual harrassment component.

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