Re: Torchwood--So do they not have ***ual harrassment laws across the pond?

In article <8fKQj.1917$e26.1577@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 peachy a****e passion <exquisitepeach@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Thanatos wrote:
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> > In article <MtbQj.7587$Ks1.7466@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >  peachy a****e passion <exquisitepeach@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > 
> >>Thanatos wrote:

> > Yes, but we were discussing *my* example and *my* occupation, not
yours. 
> > Why would any woman choose law enforcement as a profession if
off-color 
> > jokes make her physically afraid? As I said, whatever jokes she
endures 
> > from her colleagues won't hold a candle to what she'll experience on
the 
> > street, and she can't sue *them* for ***ual harassment to make it
stop.
> 
> 
> As I already covered, but will repeat for you, a few comments - or 
> even a lot of comments, wouldn't make her physically afraid.  The fact 
> that often when those comments are ignored then the men making them 
> start taking things physical, could.

And some men "take things physical" without first making any comments at 
all. Any man who would do such a thing isn't going to need a joke to act 
out.

Commonality is not the same thing as causality.

> Often when you ignore a guy's dick jokes he gets up and
> starts trying to put it in your face so you can't ignore it.

No, that doesn't happen "often" at all. In fact, it's extremely rare 
that a man will actually expose himself uninvited to a woman in the 
workplace and (as I said above) any man who *would* do such a thing 
isn't going be stopped by a restriction on joking around.

> If you ignore jokes about tits he/they start trying to grab
> at them to force that attention.

No, that isn't what will happen as a matter of course. In fact, it's 
extremely rare that a man will actually grab a woman's breasts uninvited 
in the workplace and (as I said above) any man who *would* do such a 
thing isn't going be stopped by a restriction on joking around.

> Not being in law enforcement, I can't speak to what the presence of 
> guns may do to those interactions.

Oh, yes, it's such an appalling situation. We're all just one joke away 
from a mass murder...
 
> I can say that it could be very reasonable to fear for your safety 
> and or your life if the people who are supposed to be backing you up 
> have made it clear that they aren't there for you.

That's the thing... they *are* there when it counts. The joking and the 
teasing and the "breaking of balls" (to quote The Sopranos) are actually 
a time-tested way of building camaraderie - that is until a woman joins 
the squad and starts filing EEO complaints against everyone. Then morale 
in the unit bottoms out real fast.