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Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOILERS

by jewahe <j.hanvey@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 09:25 PM

Novel wrote:
> On Apr 27, 11:30 am, jewahe <j.han...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Daniel Damouth wrote:
>>> I'm not clear on why, in "Moonlight", it's bad to be a vampire. It
>>> clearly doesn't stop one from being a good person. Mick seems to have
a
>>> psychopathology about it. In this episode he alluded to "sucking human
>>> blood" as the worst part about being a vampire, but we know a vampire
>>> doesn't have to suck blood to stay live. A vampire must simply consume
>>> blood, and it doesn't even have to be human. No one has to suffer.
>>> Other disadvantages of vampires include not tolerating extended bouts
>>> of sunlight, some sort of inability to appreciate food, and... what?
>>> Compared to immense improvements in sight, hearing, strength, healing,
>>> and (above all) life span, those problems seem minor. I'd choose to be
>>> a vampire in a second.
>> The downside, of course, is that you can't partake of any of the
>> pleasures of the world. They can't taste food, for example. And the
>> blood lust puts any human lover in danger, and there seems to be a bit
>> of territoriality that prevents vampires from forming long-term
>> relationships with each other.
>>
>> Of course, only Mick seems to have a problem with being a vampire. The
>> other vampires, including Josef and Coraline, are perfectly happy and
>> content with their status. Mick is too attached to the idea of
humanity,
>> too enamored of the living, and those feeling overwhelm his ability to
>> enjoy life. A lot of that probably stems from the fact that he was
>> turned involuntarily and forcefully, and his sire (Coraline) was not
the
>> best of role models.
>>
>> --
>> JWH
> 
> I'm sorry...the scene where Mick is being converted back to being a
> Vampire was homoerotic...( not that there is anything wrong with
> that )...even his pal said after biting him "Forgive me''. If I'm not
> mistaken It seems that Mick is going to be turned on/off as the show
> goes on....Superman/clark Kent/...anyone? This episode, he had to
> change it was the only way he could fight vampires..fire with fire.

So, why did you even bring it up? And how, exactly, does Josef saying 
"forgive me" have anything at all to do with the scene being homoerotic?

Perhaps Josef is asking for forgiveness because he knows that Mick sees 
vampirism as a curse, and he is responsible for bringing the curse back.

While I agree that the overtones were there (especially considering that 
Mick deliberately avoided Beth after he sucked her blood earlier this 
season, and there was an involved voiceover about how he could feel her 
- the resulting feeling was definitely meant to be intensely intimate), 
that point has at all to do with any point you're trying to make 
elsewhere - certainly, it has no bearing on Mick being an 
on-again/off-again vampire.

I also think that TPTB went out of their way to film the scene in as 
clinical a way as possible, specifically to downplay any homoeroticism. 
This show is playing mostly to women, and they certainly aren't going to 
allow their main male players to be gay or bi-sexual.

As to your point about Mick being an on-again/off again vampire: well, 
the "cure" is no longer available, so he'd have to either find the 
source or find another cure.

As it stands, Beth and Mick will never consummate their relationship. 
There's always going to be some interruption, some pressing need, some 
villian...Mick is always going to be on the sidelines, pining for Beth, 
  and Beth will lurch from one failed relationship to another, pining 
for Mick (the next likely interruption is likely to be the cop that was 
taken hostage with Beth).

-- 
JWH




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1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOILERS
"George Avalos"  2008-04-25 20:10:32 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
jewahe <j.hanvey@[EMAI  2008-04-26 00:11:50 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-04-25 23:04:22 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2008-04-26 02:55:42 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2008-04-26 02:55:42 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
"Jason Maxwell"  2008-04-26 09:44:58 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
jojo <jojlolo@[EMAIL P  2008-04-26 12:28:24 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Artis <lajolie@[EMAIL   2008-04-26 15:42:03 
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Alane <alanesue@[EMAIL  2008-04-26 21:42:24 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-04-27 04:21:56 
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Alane <alanesue@[EMAIL  2008-04-28 05:57:11 
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Barry Margolin <barmar  2008-04-28 20:01:15 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-04-28 18:12:37 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Barry Margolin <barmar  2008-04-28 21:17:03 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-04-28 19:15:32 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
suzee <suzee@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-28 21:05:52 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-04-29 08:09:25 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
suzee <suzee@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-29 10:02:01 
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Daniel Damouth <damout  2008-04-27 06:49:41 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Audie Murphy's Ghost <  2008-04-27 05:32:14 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-04-27 06:16:49 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
jewahe <j.hanvey@[EMAI  2008-04-27 11:30:41 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
jojo <jojlolo@[EMAIL P  2008-04-27 07:19:45 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Novel <harri85274@[EMA  2008-04-27 13:24:40 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
jewahe <j.hanvey@[EMAI  2008-04-27 21:25:34 
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Audie Murphy's Ghost <  2008-04-27 22:35:08 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
suzee <suzee@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-27 23:05:08 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2008-04-28 00:34:30 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Audie Murphy's Ghost <  2008-04-28 06:01:39 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
"David Barnett"  2008-04-28 21:57:14 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Bill Steele <ws21@[EMA  2008-04-28 15:14:36 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Novel <harri85274@[EMA  2008-04-28 06:37:27 
Re: 1st Season Moonlight - Fated to Pretend - 5 star poll - SPOI
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2008-04-28 10:02:37 

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