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Re: Time travel nonsense 4/24

by "BC" <bcphoto2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM

"Bradster" <bdhayREMOVE03@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:mHfRj.98181$rd2.77860@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Anybody" <anybody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:280420081910316519%anybody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> In article <AceRj.227118$pM4.117081@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Bradster"
>> <bdhayREMOVE03@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> "Ken Arromdee" <arromdee@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:futqnr$irt$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > If Kara was in the past and had sent a message to Swann, Clark 
>>> > wouldn't
>>> > have
>>> > noticed it suddenly appearing in the journal, he would have
remembered
>>> > that
>>> > the message had been there all along.
>>>
>>>  Not necessarily.  Time travel presents many paradoxes and
incongruities
>>> that are hard to reconcile in our finite minds.  One rational 
>>> explanation is
>>> that time travel results in the timeline branching which means that
the
>>> Clark from one timeline would be a different Clark than the Kal-El
born 
>>> on
>>> Krypton that Kara was trying to save.  The time travel paradox with
the
>>> potential for multiple universes could provide the writers a way for 
>>> tying
>>> together multiple universe storylines.
>>
>> It's extremely rare that a time travel storyline actually works and the
>> writers simply ignore any problems.
>>
>> Such storylines are usually also used by lazy writers who have run out
>> of ideas that fit in with established storylines. This is because they
>> can simply push a big red reset button at the end of the episode and
>> pretend it never actually happened - a favourite trick of the
>> incredibly incompetent Star Trek's Berman & Braga (aka Beavis &
>> Butthead).  :-(
>
> I agree.  I just watched Rendition yesterday (movie about the CIA
sending 
> suspected terrorists out of the country to be "processed" and
information 
> obtained).  There were two separate plotlines that appeared intertwined 
> but at the end of the movie you find out that they were occurring along 
> two parallel but separate timelines (not time travel).  Both my wife and
I 
> are still confused about the sequence of events.  I partly blame the 
> editors for not stitching it together in a more logical and
understandable 
> fashion.
>
> I can only imagine how much more difficult it is to write a convincing 
> story involving time travel, let alone film and edit it, so the audience

> stays with you...  My gut tells me that this story was merely a
convenient 
> plot device (based on Chloe's silly reference to "inter-galactic time 
> portal"). I suspect they are no serious plans to really utilize time 
> travel more effectively unless they want to pay homage to Superman II 
> where Supey went back in time.  I remember an episode of Star Trek
Voyage 
> that dealt with "time" with in an interesting fashion.  Voyager ran
across 
> a spaceship traveling the quadrant trying to erase and restore
timelines. 
> Ultimately, it was about trying to right wrongs and bring back the 
> captain's lost loved one (his wife) who had been "erased" years prior
due 
> to a stupid mistake he made while manipulating a timeline.
IMO, as I have said before, went bonkers with Clark's time travel to save 
Lana resulting in the death of Jonathan.  What we may have here is the
idea 
that Clark's time travel changed more than that -- he may have created the

existence of the Veritas group in the past and that's why what we see that

the Lionel now and then don't jibe with him protecting the Traveler. 
Lionel 
became the good lionel after Jonathan's death -- he began to court Martha 
and offer his help.  Clark also became the more sedate Clark at that
point. 
It may explain the added page in Swann's notes.  Maybe Krypton didn't 
explode in this new reality and Kara is there.  Maybe -- so it is a
theory.




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arromdee@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-25 23:50:19 
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"Christopher M."  2008-04-25 23:59:37 
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"Wouter Valentijn&qu  2008-04-26 14:30:50 
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Martin Phipps <martinp  2008-04-27 02:51:25 
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"drifter" <r  2008-04-27 17:49:10 
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Sum Ting Wong <sumting  2008-04-28 03:16:24 
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"geoff" <nos  2008-04-28 06:27:26 
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Sum Ting Wong <sumting  2008-04-28 14:15:12 
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bf <bfordyce@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-29 07:41:05 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-04-29 08:01:27 
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"Bradster" <  2008-04-28 06:33:04 
Re: Time travel nonsense 4/24
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-04-28 19:10:31 
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"Bradster" <  2008-04-28 08:14:10 
Re: Time travel nonsense 4/24
"BC" <bcphot  2008-04-29 11:06:19 
Re: Time travel nonsense 4/24
"BC" <bcphot  2008-04-29 10:59:23 
Re: Time travel nonsense 4/24
Martin Phipps <martinp  2008-04-28 04:39:30 
Re: Time travel nonsense 4/24
Martin Phipps <martinp  2008-04-28 04:58:39 
Re: Time travel nonsense 4/24
"Julio Laredo"   2008-04-29 17:51:21 

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