Re: I wish we could do away with the 5-star poll

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 btm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Brad Templeton) wrote:

> In article <aLOdna298vX3G7nVnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> PV <pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >btm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Brad Templeton) writes:
> >>Many people _do_ post as I suggest, they might use a title 
> >>like "Tigh's hanger deck confrontation" or something else that
> >
> >In other words, a spoiler.
> 
> No, but that's another debate.  :-)

No, you just specifically suggested a spoiler.
> >
> >Nobody is stopping anyone from starting those threads. It just doesn't
> >happen much, mostly because nobody sees the need to. *
> 
> Actually, that's the point.   People clearly want to discuss the show,

And the polls work great for that; it's better than it was before them.

> people come to the newsgroup to read discussion of the show.  The
> discussion isn't stopped -- not at all -  by the 5-star poll, but it is

In fact, it's increased.
 
> diverted into
> one mutli-topic thread, doing away entirely with the concept of a

No, it's not.  It's not like there were a ton of threads before being 
'diverted' into this one.  These threads START here.  Threads aren't 
diverted into their origin point.

> subject line for threads, a concept I think it is an error to do
> away with.

And you're alone in this.  Besides, there was LESS discussion before 
George's polls.
> 
> And it is this thought that I hoped the originator of the poll might
> want to consider.   Is it creating discussion?  Is it diverting

It's creating discussion.

> discussion?   Is it stopping people from reading discussion? (because
> people like me, needing more S/N, do not read the 5-star thread) 

And you're alone it that.  And the rest of us are, at this point, 
absolutely thrilled about you not reading it.
> 
> These are reasonable questions to ask.  I erred in talking at the
> start about the noise of posts with just a number in them.  They
> are part of the reason I don't read the thread, but only part of
> it, and the real issue is something else.
> 
> Topic drift happpens, and threads with multiple discussions under
> the same subject happen.  We won't stop it.  But I would have hoped
> most people considered that a bug, not a feature, and something to
> be discouraged rather than deliberately stimulated.   
> 
> But it's up to George, the poster of the thread, to consider these
> issues in his own mind and decide if the poll is doing good, harm
> or is neutral.   Nothing world shaking, just some issues to
> consider.

There are no issues to consider.

Fact:  We have more discussion now, thanks to the polls.

Fact:  You don't like it.

Fact:  Too bad.

Fact:  You think George should do a whole lot more work to accomodate 
your wishes.

Fact:  Forget it.

-- 
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.