Re: 4th Season Lost - Cabin Fever - 5 star poll - SPOILERS AHOY !

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <4829d3b6$0$34537$742ec2ed@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> "Dimensional Traveler" <dtravel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> Captain Infinity wrote:
>>> Once Upon A Time,
>>> Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>
>>>> PV wrote:
>>>>> "yngver@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <yngver@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>>>>>> That Claire was in the cabin with Christian didn't surprise me at
>>>>>> all. We already knew she went off in the jungle with Christian,
>>>>>> so where else would she be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, we knew that Claire ran off after something that looked like
>>>>> Christian, but this is the first time we've seen him as something
>>>>> confirmed to be something other than a vision or delusion, and
>>>>> Claire was just acting WEIRD. *
>>>>
>>>> How was it confirmed that Christian isn't a vision/delusion?  I
>>>> don't recall Locke or anyone else making physical contact with him,
>>>> picking him up or anything else of that nature.
>>>
>>> Hmm.  OK.  He was visible, he spoke, he occupied and moved through
>>> space and time, he breathed air, heck he probably even had his own
>>> gravitational field (small though it may be)...but because he wasn't
>>> confirmed by the single sense of touch, he wasn't real?  How do you
>>> manage to get through the day if you have to touch everything to be
>>> sure it exists?
>>>
>> Actually, to be nitpicky, all we _know_ is that he was visible and
>> Locke heard him speak.  The rest is just assumed.  *grin*  And since
>> he never left that chair, we can't even assume the movement part.
>> At this point, to consider Christian anything other than a vision or
>> hallucenation I'd want to see at least two people other than Locke
>> or Ben (and possibly other than Hurley too) physically interact with
>> him.  We've been shown things from the POV of characters several
>> times, I can't rule out that we are being shown what they think
>> they're seeing rather than what is objectively happening.
>
> What if you saw him riding the horse?

Given that we were lead to believe that the horse was an Island 
manifistation too....

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