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Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Sammael?

by Galad Damodred <crapats007@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 02:54 AM

On May 7, 7:16 pm, vecki <vecst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Moiraine surprised Aginor and held him for a while, The Green Man
> turned Balthamel into the aforementioned mushroom.  Ishy didn't show
> up in this scene until later.
>
> Rand had already started channelling (Bela refresher, hitting a
> Trolloc on Domon's boat, Four Kings) so his strength likely had
> already started climbing, and lets not forget he's the most powerful
> channeller EVER so he could very well already be stronger than A / B
> (he never faced both at once, only a slightly (!) burned and otherwise
> wounded Aginor (perhaps a little difficult to concentrate?) and a not-
> quite-in-this-world Ishy - hence the not being killed Ishy).
>
> That and they'd been so bloody cocky that they didn't just come out
> firing the way they should have if they really wanted to wipe out Rand
> & co at tEotW.  Too busy gloating to notice Moiraine embrace saidar
> (much harder to ****eld someone once they've already started
> channelling).

Is Rand really the most powerful channeler ever? According to
http://encyclopaedia-wot.org:8008/characters/hist/ltt.html

TEotW,Ch50 - Aginor was close behind Ishamael and Lews Therin in
strength.

This indicates that Rand and Ishamael would be about the same and
Aginor close behind:

When Rand wakes, Da****va holds nearly as much of the One Power as Rand
can. Da****va accompanies Rand on his strike at Illian. When Rand
announces that Sammael is dead Da****va sighs loudly with relief.
(ACoS,Ch41)

Either of the two at full strength should have been able to take out
Rand when Rand hardly had any experience. Hence my argument that
neither were at full strength from the beginning.

Ok forget about everything I've written. Just think about this
logically. The Forsaken are the most powerful and feared of all
channelers out there. At the end of ETOTW Rand took on 3 of them. The
experience alone of these legends should have been enough to take Rand
out. Moirraine who is a weakling in the OP compared to the likes of
Egwene and Nynaeve was able to ****eld Aginor. Rand was able to break
free of three sisters linked together holding his ****eld.

It's simple. If Aginor, Ishy and Balthamel were at full power as they
came out of the bore, the book would have ended then and there.
 




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Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Sammael?
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-28 16:51:15 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
jazza59@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-29 01:21:06 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-29 14:36:31 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Luc.Habert.00__arjf@[EMAI  2008-04-29 21:41:39 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-29 15:48:30 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-04-29 22:22:09 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 01:00:54 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-04-30 08:39:34 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-04-30 19:03:30 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 15:55:46 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-05 22:20:40 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 15:59:47 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-04-30 16:37:41 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-04-30 16:38:17 
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Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 18:07:24 
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Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 18:14:04 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-01 08:24:50 
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Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-01 08:30:17 
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Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-01 14:07:59 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-01 14:08:37 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-05 22:17:17 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-01 20:47:57 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-05 22:23:18 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-01 21:44:23 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-01 22:17:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
"steveo" <gn  2008-05-02 17:48:10 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-03 21:03:01 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-05 22:24:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-05 14:12:35 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Trolloc <troll@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 18:34:35 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 15:55:35 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 19:28:28 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 19:33:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-10 19:13:15 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 19:35:07 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 19:54:41 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 20:04:32 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 20:05:18 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-10 19:14:24 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:30:14 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:37:54 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-06 22:39:55 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:42:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:42:51 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:59:23 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 23:47:25 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 18:16:09 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 23:48:09 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 23:51:31 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 23:58:30 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-07 00:16:27 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-07 02:54:51 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-07 14:46:47 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-07 16:20:24 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-07 17:01:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-07 17:28:31 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Casey <ydenberg@[EMAIL  2008-05-23 15:44:51 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-24 02:44:11 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
"steveo" <gn  2008-05-24 09:54:32 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-24 17:01:38 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Luc.Habert.00__arjf@[EMAI  2008-05-25 00:13:52 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-24 21:51:22 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-24 21:55:05 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-24 21:55:35 

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