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Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Sammael?

by vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 05:28 PM

On May 8, 9:01=A0am, Galad Damodred <crapats...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 8, 11:20=A0am, vecki <vecst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > That would mean that LTT was the most powerful channeler EVER. =A0Hmm,
> > Rand is a rebirth of LTT. =A0Gee, I wonder if that means that Rand is
> > therefore the most powerful channeler EVER.
>
> The point I was making, which you overlooked quite conveniently, is
> that Ishy is at the same power level as Rand while Aginor is close
> behind.

Ishy wasn't completely in the world as we know it.  Like trying to
channel to affect the real world through TAR, I'd imagine it'd be
tough to channel to the level you would expect when you're still
halfway in the Bore.

Also, Forsaken at various points along the way think that Ishy was at
least part mad even before their imprisonment in the Bore, and that he
seems no saner as Moridin.

>
> > NEARLY as much. =A0Is it 99%? =A095%? =A090%? =A075%? =A0It's still
less=
 than
> > Rand.
>
> 90% plus.
>
> > Perhaps if they were working together - not a talent the Forsaken are
> > known for - rather than going "mmmm... Power" and "mwahahahahahaha I
> > am free"
>
> Yes, which is where I have a problem with the plot. For such a complex
> world that RJ has created you'd think he'd have smarter baddies hence
> the subject of this thread. Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he
> was fighting Sammael? Ok, if he didn't want to kill him Rand was as
> vulnerable as you'd ever find him (hadn't eaten for two days and was
> hanging off a ledge or something). Moridin could have quite easily
> captured Rand.
>

It's a problem that I think Graendal refers to in aCoS, something
along the lines of "we behave as if this is the world we knew, and we
are dying."  They're still human, for all their protestations that
they are somehow more, they show themselves to be no better/smarter
than anyone else.  Having super-powers doesn't make these people any
more intelligent - just look at the current crop of Power wielders.

Oh, and perhaps Moridin could have captured Rand, but in a Lord of
Chaos ruling kinda way, he perhaps could have seen it as more
beneficial to let Rand continue running around.  Having him loose
seems to cause as much chaos as he manages to resolve.

~*~
vecki
 




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Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Sammael?
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-28 16:51:15 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
jazza59@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-29 01:21:06 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-29 14:36:31 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Luc.Habert.00__arjf@[EMAI  2008-04-29 21:41:39 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-29 15:48:30 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-04-29 22:22:09 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 01:00:54 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-04-30 08:39:34 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-04-30 19:03:30 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 15:55:46 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-05 22:20:40 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 15:59:47 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-04-30 16:37:41 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-04-30 16:38:17 
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Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 18:07:24 
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Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-04-30 18:14:04 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-01 08:24:50 
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Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-01 08:30:17 
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Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-01 14:07:59 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-01 14:08:37 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-05 22:17:17 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-01 20:47:57 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-05 22:23:18 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-01 21:44:23 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-01 22:17:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
"steveo" <gn  2008-05-02 17:48:10 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-03 21:03:01 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-05 22:24:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-05 14:12:35 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Trolloc <troll@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 18:34:35 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 15:55:35 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 19:28:28 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 19:33:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-10 19:13:15 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 19:35:07 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 19:54:41 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 20:04:32 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 20:05:18 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Chucky & Janica <j  2008-05-10 19:14:24 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:30:14 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:37:54 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-06 22:39:55 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:42:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:42:51 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Brinner <keating.brian  2008-05-06 22:59:23 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 23:47:25 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 18:16:09 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 23:48:09 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 23:51:31 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-06 23:58:30 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-07 00:16:27 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-07 02:54:51 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-07 14:46:47 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-07 16:20:24 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-07 17:01:02 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-07 17:28:31 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Casey <ydenberg@[EMAIL  2008-05-23 15:44:51 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-24 02:44:11 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
"steveo" <gn  2008-05-24 09:54:32 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-24 17:01:38 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Luc.Habert.00__arjf@[EMAI  2008-05-25 00:13:52 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
vecki <vecsta02@[EMAIL  2008-05-24 21:51:22 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-24 21:55:05 
Re: Why didn't Moridin just kill Rand when he was fighting Samma
Galad Damodred <crapat  2008-05-24 21:55:35 

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