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Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives

by Sea Wasp <seawaspObvious@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 7, 2008 at 07:17 AM

Gene Ward Smith wrote:
> Sea Wasp <seawaspObvious@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in 
> news:47AA982B.10608@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
>>>Why? Something FTL is FTL in all reference frames, 
>>
>>     I'm standing on my FTL ****p; to me, it's not moving at 
> 
> all. There's 
> 
>>at least one reference frame in which it's not.
>>
> 
> 
> How does that work? How do you know you can stand on an FTL 
> ****p while subjective time p*****, and you are in what seems 
> to be space of some kind?

	As we don't KNOW how to make an FTL drive we have to decide on  its 
characteristics in order to talk about it. The vast majority of such 
postulated drives require a UFOR. Which you obviously must know, 
having been on this group as long as you have. I'm utterly at a loss 
as to why you are ducking and weaving on this to this extent.

	You can of course postulate one that does not, and discuss those 
characteristics, but if -- as you did in some other messages -- you 
take whatever definition of FTL you want, and then use it to make 
blanket statements about something else (in this case the Fermi 
"paradox" which isn't), you're going to be called on it, because 
whatever definition you use has no preference over any definition 
anyone else uses.

-- 
                      Sea Wasp
                        /^\
                        ;;;	
      Live Journal: http://seawasp.livejournal.com
 




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Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 05:37:06 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-03 10:16:04 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-02-03 18:07:42 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 18:13:25 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-02-04 07:05:25 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-04 09:40:59 
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"Martha Adams"   2008-02-03 18:33:56 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 18:48:50 
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Jack Tingle <wjtingle@  2008-02-03 15:20:59 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-03 18:00:03 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-03 18:24:24 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 18:28:59 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-03 14:29:52 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-03 19:18:25 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 19:22:08 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-03 14:37:14 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 20:22:07 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-03 15:41:48 
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David T. Bilek <davidb  2008-02-03 23:15:58 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-06 17:23:27 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-06 22:24:58 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-06 19:13:51 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-07 01:18:06 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-07 00:33:31 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-07 06:45:48 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-07 07:17:21 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-07 14:26:07 
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cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-07 18:27:29 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-02-07 19:37:47 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-07 20:31:11 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 02:58:46 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-07 22:32:33 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 03:41:30 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-08 07:56:30 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 13:41:18 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-08 09:43:00 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-08 20:46:29 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-08 18:19:04 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 23:41:59 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-08 19:09:02 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-08 19:25:34 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-08 19:57:13 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-09 02:01:41 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-09 21:25:37 
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"Default User"   2008-02-07 21:36:51 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-07 20:23:41 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-03 11:43:13 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 20:25:36 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-03 20:31:21 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 21:24:59 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-04 06:48:16 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-03 15:40:57 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-03 19:48:49 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 20:26:41 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-03 20:01:40 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-04 00:52:23 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-04 04:35:11 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-04 05:03:38 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-04 00:47:24 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-04 06:50:59 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-02-03 14:01:05 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 20:27:11 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-03 15:41:29 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 10:58:26 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-08 08:04:54 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 13:39:07 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-08 18:15:16 
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Allen Thomson <thomson  2008-02-03 11:00:48 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 19:19:33 
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Butch Malahide <fred.g  2008-02-03 11:06:50 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 19:25:14 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-03 21:00:58 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-04 00:23:58 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-04 21:43:39 
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raphfrk <raphfrk@[EMAI  2008-02-05 06:29:44 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-05 15:33:25 
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raphfrk <raphfrk@[EMAI  2008-02-05 08:09:00 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-05 18:15:50 
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Raghar <RagharA2@[EMAI  2008-02-05 09:50:52 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-02-16 22:35:37 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-16 21:50:17 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-16 19:23:56 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-17 00:31:15 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-17 07:24:27 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-17 12:03:18 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-17 14:04:44 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
herwin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-18 10:58:30 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-18 08:27:17 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
herwin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-18 15:39:43 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
herwin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-18 10:58:28 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-17 00:26:48 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-17 00:40:13 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-16 20:28:11 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-18 17:58:02 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-18 19:25:02 
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