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Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives

by Gene Ward Smith <gene@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 7, 2008 at 02:26 PM

Sea Wasp <seawaspObvious@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in 
news:47AAF6D1.2060701@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> How does that work? How do you know you can stand on an 
FTL 
>> ****p while subjective time p*****, and you are in what 
seems 
>> to be space of some kind?
> 
>      As we don't KNOW how to make an FTL drive we have to 
decide on  its 
> characteristics in order to talk about it. The vast 
majority of such 
> postulated drives require a UFOR. Which you obviously must 
know, 
> having been on this group as long as you have. I'm utterly 
at a loss 
> as to why you are ducking and weaving on this to this 
extent.

I was asking how to relate the most plausible FTL drives, for 
those who believe they are plausible, to the Fermi "paradox", 
People keep dragging in loony-tune Star Trek stuff, which I 
am assuming no one actually thinks is plausible. What 
difference does it make that when Captain Kirk is standing on 
the Enterprise, he's in normal space and time, but just going 
much faster than light? How could that possibly matter to the 
question of why we have no aliens hanging around? It's like 
asking if the subprime lending crisis could be addressed 
using the help of Gringotts Bank.

Of course, it could be no one here believes FTL is plausible, 
but I had another impression.
 




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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 05:37:06 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-03 10:16:04 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-02-03 18:07:42 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 18:13:25 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-02-04 07:05:25 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-04 09:40:59 
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"Martha Adams"   2008-02-03 18:33:56 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 18:48:50 
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Jack Tingle <wjtingle@  2008-02-03 15:20:59 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-03 18:00:03 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-03 18:24:24 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 18:28:59 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-03 14:29:52 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-03 19:18:25 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 19:22:08 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-03 14:37:14 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 20:22:07 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-03 15:41:48 
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David T. Bilek <davidb  2008-02-03 23:15:58 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-06 17:23:27 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-06 22:24:58 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-06 19:13:51 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-07 01:18:06 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-07 00:33:31 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-07 06:45:48 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-07 07:17:21 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-07 14:26:07 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-07 20:31:11 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 02:58:46 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-07 22:32:33 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 03:41:30 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-08 07:56:30 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 13:41:18 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-08 09:43:00 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 23:41:59 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 21:24:59 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-04 06:48:16 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-03 15:40:57 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-03 19:48:49 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 20:26:41 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-04 00:52:23 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-04 00:47:24 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-02-03 14:01:05 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 20:27:11 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-03 15:41:29 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 10:58:26 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-08 08:04:54 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-08 13:39:07 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-08 18:15:16 
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Allen Thomson <thomson  2008-02-03 11:00:48 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 19:19:33 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-04 00:34:04 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-03 19:25:14 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-03 14:39:17 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-03 19:35:34 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-03 21:00:58 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-03 21:43:40 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-04 00:23:58 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-04 21:43:39 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can   2008-02-04 23:45:49 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-02-05 04:22:37 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-05 15:33:25 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-05 18:15:50 
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Raghar <RagharA2@[EMAI  2008-02-05 09:50:52 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-16 21:50:17 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-16 19:23:56 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-17 00:31:15 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-17 07:24:27 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-17 12:03:18 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-17 14:04:44 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
herwin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-18 10:58:30 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-18 08:27:17 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
herwin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-18 15:39:43 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
herwin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-18 10:58:28 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-17 00:26:48 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-17 00:40:13 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-16 20:28:11 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-18 17:58:02 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-18 19:25:02 
Re: Fermi's Paradox and FTL drives
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