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Re: Nine Predictions, If Intelligent Design Is True

by "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 10, 2008 at 09:09 AM

Just more imaginative creation by a creationists!

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http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/2008/01/nine-predictions-if-intelligent-design.html
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> Nine predictions, if intelligent design is true
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>
>
> I blog at Uncommon Descent, a community blog where this question was
> sent to Bill Dembski by a TV chase producer:
>
> ... can you or they provide any samples of things that intelligent
> design theory has predicted, which researchers have later determined
> to be true?
>
> I gather Dembski sent that guy some predictions, but I've been busy,
> so I didn't get around to compiling any suggestions till now. Figured
> I'd post them here.
>
> 1. No good theory will be found for a random origin of the universe,
> either by the Large Hadron Collider or anything else. The universe
> will consistently behave more like a great idea than a great machine.
>
> Positive prediction: An end to unfalsifiable ideas about zillions of
> flopped universes and a focus on how we can best explore our own
> universe, as per The Privileged Planet .
>
> 2. No good theory will be found for a random origin of life, though
> there will be plenty of huffing and puffing in favour of bad ideas.
> All theories that exclude purpose and design fail because they leave
> out the key driver - the purpose that life should come into
> existence.
>
> Positive prediction: We will learn more about the real nature of our
> universe and our place in it, and how best we can explore it when we
> accept the fact that it didn't "just happen."
>
> 3. Complete series of transitional fossils will not usually be found
> because most proposed series have never existed. Eventually,
> researchers will give up on ideologically driven nonsense and address
> the history that IS there. They will focus on discovering the
> mechanisms that drive sudden bursts of creativity.
>
> Positive prediction: Discovering the true mechanisms of bursts of
> natural creativity may be of immense value to us, especially if we
> need to undo some significant harm to our environment.
>
> 4. The environment will prove far more resilient than eco-doomsayers
> believe. People forget that the Permian extinction wiped out 90% of
> the marine life forms on this planet. Life seems to want to exist on
> this planet, even at the South Pole (cf March of the Penguins). Note:
> I have no time for environment destruction, and personally gave up
> keeping a car, as the simplest and most economical way to reduce my
> environment footprint. But I am NOT waiting for enviro-apocalypse!! -
> I don't believe it will happen. There will be changes. That's all. Not
> the end of the world or anything like it.
>
> 5. No account of human evolution will show a long slow emergence from
> unconsciousness to semi-consciousness to consciousness, let alone that
> consciousness is merely the random firing of neurons in the brain.
> However consciousness got started, it appeared rather suddenly and it
> permanently separates humans from our genetic kin, however you want to
> do the gene numbers and however much time researchers spend coaxing
> monkeys to stop relieving themselves on the keyboard and type
> something meaningful.
>
> Positive prediction: We will focus on what consciousness can do,
> especially in treatment of mental disorders. Yes, a drugged up zombie
> is better than a suicide, but only because the zombie isn't
> technically dead. Why stop there?
>
> 6. Claims that the human brain is full of "anachronistic junk" will be
> falsified, just as century old claims that there are hundreds of
> vestigial organs in the human body were falsified. The human body will
> be recognized as suitable for the purposes for which we exist. (Not in
> all cases perfect, to be sure, but in general suitable.)
>
> Positive prediction: We will discover the functions of many brain
> areas whose functions we did not know before.
>
> 7. No useful theory of consciousness will demonstrate that
> consciousness is merely the outcome of the random firing of neurons in
> the brain. All useful theories will accept that the mind and the brain
> exist in a relation****p. Research will focus on delineating the
> relation****p more clearly. That will greatly benefit medical research,
> especially research on difficult mental disorders such as phobias,
> depression, etc.
>
> Positive prediction: We can have a better grasp of what consciousness
> does and how it relates us to our environment.
>
> 8. No useful theory of free will (human volition) will demonstrate
> that it does not really exist. Free will (which includes using the
> mind to help heal bodily injuries) will become an im****tant tool of
> medicine, especially for helping aging people toward a better quality
> of life. For example, the fact that a drug only need perform 5% better
> than a placebo to be licensed for use will encourage the development
> of mind-based treatments for people who would otherwise be forced to
> take antagonistic drugs.
>
> Positive prediction: Better health care for people with complex
> illnesses
>
> 9. No useful theory of human psychology will be founded on claims
> about what happened in the caves of our ancestors (= evolutionary
> psychology). That is because there are no genes that simply "cause"
> behaviour in a clinically normal human being. The mind is real and
> humans create their social environment by mental effort. Information
> is passed on from mind to mind, not through genes or physiology.
>
> Positive prediction: For example, if one culture decrees that "God
> says you SHOULD beat your wife" and another culture says that "God
> says you SHOULDN'T beat your wife", the observed instance of wife-
> beating will be lower in the second culture than in the first. Human
> nature may be the same everywhere, but human behaviour is predicted by
> culture. So culture matters.
>
> 10. I have decided to add a tenth prediction (but I am not changing
> the hedder for tech reasons). The ID guys will win because they are
> more interesting. I just got done rejecting a whack of comments by
> people I take to be boring young fogies with plenty of time on their
> hands (a problem I certainly don't have).
>
> Goood heavens, if you are already a fogie in your thirties, don't
> write to me, get a life. I don't even know any OLD fogies and don't
> want to.
>
> Blogging may be light this week as I will be doing media and also
> editing a book (someone else's). I have closed the combox on this one
> for time management reasons.
 




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Re: Nine Predictions, If Intelligent Design Is True
"Bill M" <wm  2008-02-10 09:09:24 
Re: Nine Predictions, If Intelligent Design Is True
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