Re: Nothing like oil?

On Feb 22, 7:35 pm, "David V. Loewe, Jr" <davelo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:25:40 -0800 (PST), AlfredMontestruc
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> <montest...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >On Feb 22, 7:57 am, "David V. Loewe, Jr" <davelo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:52:14 GMT, thro...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Wayne Throop)
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> >> >: AlfredMontestruc<montest...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >: Also methanol has the advantage that you need not consume food
that
> >> >: people could eat, but can use wood, grass clippings or other like
> >> >: waste.
> >> >:
> >> >:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol_economy
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> >> >I think most people balk at the lower energy density, and pine for
> >> >the ethanol.  Plus the toxicity.
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> >> AND the inability to trans****t it via existing pipelines...
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> >Wrong it will go through pipelines.  The only issue might be packing
> >of valves or seals in some cases and that is not so hard of a fix.
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> It will strip off all the gunk on the walls of the pipeline and make
> whatever you send through for a while unusable - just like ethanol.
> You notice they don't send ethanol through oil pipelines, right?

1That is a one time problem, not a long term problem so long as you
****ft to the use of methanol.

2 It is a problem that is predictable and one that can be dealt with
by any of several ways by having (for example) a distillation
apparatus on the end that removes the gum and so on.




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> >> >But I do wonder about it.  It seems
> >> >greatly preferable for most purposes to, say, hydrogen, and people
> >> >push that.  And compared to ethanol, you can *already* use
cellulose.
> >> >And fuel cells.  And there are known ways to synthesize it "from
scratch".
> >> >Plenty of off-the-shelf tech for it.
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> >> >Ah well.
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