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Re: Comet impact in the Eastern United States - Feasibility of Evacuation

by "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 11, 2008 at 06:20 PM

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:12:33 -0500, "Joel Olson"
<joel_olson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:21:57 -0500, "Joel Olson"
>> <joel_olson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>"Howard Brazee" <howard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's the closest example of what's likely to happen.  It was clear
for
>>>>> at least 48 hours that Katrina was going to hit the area.  You can
>>>>> look up and find out what the response was, and how competent it
was,
>>>>> and extrapolate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a smoothly-running evacuation that uses all the available
>>>>> highway lanes and rails out of the area is about the *least* likely
>>>>> thing that will happen.
>>>>
>>>> Probably.   But now that FEMA has been subordinated under the
Department
>>>> of Homeland Defense, it has to be more ready than before to handle
>>>> disasters, natural or man-made.
>>>>
>>>???
>>>
>>>> The man-made part made the need to get it right so im****tant - this
was
>>>> the first and best test of our Leaders' response to 9/11.
>>>>
>>>There was a pretty accurate simulation of the event a couple years 
>>>earlier, involving all levels of Federal, State and Local authority. 
>>>Did ANYONE do what they were supposed to?
>>>
>>>Heck of a job.
>>
>> Better than you seem to understand.  And not all that applicable,
>> actually.

>Were you there? In what capacity?

What does that have to do with anything?

Many of the horror stories about murders and deaths in the Superdome
and Convention Center were WILDLY overblown.  After action re****ts
indicate that response was far better than any of the morons re****ting
from the scene indicated.  

For example...
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html?page=2

"Bumbling by top disaster-management officials fueled a perception of
general inaction, one that was compounded by impassioned news anchors.
In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest--and
fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency
personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm's
landfall."

Let me emphasize - "...the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far
the largest--and FASTEST-rescue effort in U.S. history..."

However, I expect you people to keep lauding Ransom Stoddard, ignoring
Tom Doniphon and saying to yourselves, "When the legend becomes fact,
print the legend."

>And why shouldn't such a large-scale simulation exercise be applicable?

Think about it.  Most of the complaints had to do with restoring
services in the affected zone.  How does the experience of being
flattened by a hurricane even remotely begin to be applicable to being
destroyed by an impactor fireball?

>Because it will be ignored?
-- 
"Why is it, Scott, that we always have to respect their cultural context?
 Why is it that they never seem to respect ours?"
   President John P. Ryan in Executive Orders
 




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Comet impact in the Eastern United States - Feasibility of Evacu
Matt Browne SFW <matt.  2008-03-09 10:28:42 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-09 17:37:33 
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David T. Bilek <davidb  2008-03-09 11:54:49 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-09 18:59:20 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-09 21:38:26 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-03-09 19:02:06 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-09 19:09:43 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2008-03-11 12:46:28 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-03-11 20:19:15 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-11 14:43:56 
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Don Bruder <dakidd@[EM  2008-03-11 15:01:45 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-11 22:27:15 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-09 21:36:26 
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mvp@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-03-14 23:03:25 
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Matt Browne SFW <matt.  2008-03-09 10:58:59 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-09 18:11:55 
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"Joetheone" <  2008-03-09 19:16:04 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-09 16:45:10 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-10 14:44:04 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-10 15:49:42 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 15:18:15 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-11 17:04:46 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 17:54:00 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-11 18:35:51 
Re: Comet impact in the Eastern United States - Feasibility of E
"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 19:06:48 
Re: Comet impact in the Eastern United States - Feasibility of E
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-03-10 19:03:56 
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Don Bruder <dakidd@[EM  2008-03-09 12:31:19 
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claylonnie@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-03-09 11:37:27 
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Don Bruder <dakidd@[EM  2008-03-09 12:26:36 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-03-09 19:32:00 
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Don Bruder <dakidd@[EM  2008-03-09 13:07:20 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-09 21:44:45 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-03-09 20:27:42 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-09 17:31:03 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-09 21:49:21 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-09 22:41:23 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-03-10 21:03:46 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 15:28:05 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-12 02:45:43 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-03-12 10:10:37 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-12 08:55:44 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 19:48:39 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-03-11 11:36:53 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 02:50:30 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-10 03:30:19 
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"Martha Adams"   2008-03-10 17:47:12 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-10 14:39:52 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-03-10 19:54:41 
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Charlton Wilbur <cwilb  2008-03-10 16:22:38 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-10 18:31:12 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-10 20:21:57 
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nebusj-@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 15:46:50 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 15:45:13 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-11 17:12:33 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 18:20:50 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-12 02:47:35 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-12 07:48:08 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 15:43:45 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-11 18:09:12 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 22:46:09 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 20:45:40 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 15:48:20 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-11 17:27:50 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 19:11:40 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-13 00:24:40 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-13 04:47:32 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-03-13 16:29:07 
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Bill Snyder <bsnyder@[  2008-03-13 10:38:05 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-13 10:58:54 
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Don Bruder <dakidd@[EM  2008-03-10 12:05:00 
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johan.g.larson@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-10 05:12:59 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-03-10 15:07:40 
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Joy Beeson <jbeeson@[E  2008-03-11 01:03:02 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-03-11 11:33:00 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 19:49:55 
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ilya2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-10 07:26:57 
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nebusj-@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 12:39:25 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-10 13:14:56 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-03-10 19:17:45 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 18:34:47 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-03-10 13:06:25 
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"Michael S. Schiffer  2008-03-11 21:25:37 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-12 02:36:49 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-03-12 09:57:22 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-13 09:52:20 
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WaltBJ <waltbj01@[EMAI  2008-03-10 14:31:29 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-03-11 00:41:15 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-03-11 03:17:09 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-11 01:57:15 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-03-11 20:29:03 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 15:49:51 
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WaltBJ <waltbj01@[EMAI  2008-03-10 14:47:02 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 20:40:07 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-03-11 02:00:17 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-12 00:45:54 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-03-12 04:49:43 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-12 00:56:36 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-03-12 06:28:11 
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"Robert A. Woodward&  2008-03-11 23:31:26 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-12 14:03:27 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-10 23:35:02 
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johan.g.larson@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-10 18:30:24 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-03-11 11:41:19 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-11 18:09:12 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-11 17:22:01 
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"John F. Eldredge&qu  2008-03-11 01:52:21 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 15:38:48 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-11 23:45:25 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-11 19:10:16 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-11 17:23:48 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-11 18:09:12 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-03-11 14:21:49 
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Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-03-11 10:11:24 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-12 05:09:53 
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johan.g.larson@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-12 04:35:40 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-03-12 17:15:19 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-12 15:05:04 
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"David V. Loewe, Jr&  2008-03-12 15:19:23 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-12 17:02:25 
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johan.g.larson@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-12 04:54:21 
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nance@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-12 14:09:11 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-12 18:54:53 
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Walter Bushell <proto@  2008-03-13 09:34:26 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-12 18:09:01 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-03-13 00:18:34 
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Greg Egan <gregegan@[E  2008-03-13 20:20:14 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-03-14 03:26:43 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-03-14 04:02:30 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-14 07:54:16 
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Matt Browne SFW <matt.  2008-03-16 03:58:38 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2008-03-16 11:12:22 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-03-16 20:52:28 
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mb.gadw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-30 10:37:40 
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Larry Caldwell <firstn  2008-03-30 13:27:49 
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