Re: Variations on a theme

On Mar 18, 11:49 am, Kurt Busiek <k...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On 2008-03-18 06:00:34 -0700, Keith Wetzel AKA Space Cadet
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> > On Mar 17, 6:40 pm, Kurt Busiek <k...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On 2008-03-16 10:57:07 -0700, jdnic...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (James Nicoll) said:

> Here's the list we cobbled up on this group a while back:
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> The Heinleinesque List (not all strictly Heinlein inspired, but that
> was the entry point):
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> Clarke, Arthur C. - ISLANDS IN THE SKY
I think I read that, the title does sound familiar
> Gerrold, David - BOUNCING OFF THE MOON, JUMPING OFF THE PLANET, LEAPING
> TO THE STARS, A MATTER FOR MEN
'A Matter for Men' that's the start of the Chtorr series right, yes
that's the only one of that list I've read
> Niven, Larry and Jerry Pournelle - THE MOTE IN GOD'S EYE
Ah yes! Good one
> Palmer, David R. - EMERGENCE
Read that
> Steele, Allen - ORBITAL DECAY &c.
Yes, read most of his 'Steele Universe' Novels
> Vinge, Vernor - THE PEACE WAR
Yes, read that
Many I haven't read or heard of, when I can find time, I'll try and
track down a few and read them

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> > Also what do you mean by "empty America" stories?
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> What I think of as "empty America" stories are stories where America
> has been rendered empty or near empty, but the materials of
> civilization are still lying around to be picked up, or are able to be
> im****ted.  THE STAND is the big mama of empty America stories, along
> with its postapocalyptic brethren.  But Steven Gould's WILDSIDE is a
> different kind of empty America story (an unspoiled, uninhabited
> America, into which the protagonists bring modern technology to
> explore).  David R. Paul's EMERGENCE makes both lists. In comics, THE
> WALKING DEAD has attributes of an empty America story, and the new
> series, RESURRECTION, may be doing so as well.  I AM LEGEND is an
> empty-New-York story -- in many cases, "empty" means "devoid of people
> to use the stuff of civilization, but not necessarily devoid of
> people-like things.
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> I don't know why it is I like them so much, but I do.  Part of it is
> the aspect of being a kind of Robinson Crusoe in a world where you can
> simply commandeer cool equipment, part of it is the sense of loss in an
> abandoned civilization, but I think there's more to it than that.  When
> I've figured out more about it, I'll write one (or more) -- I have a
> few ideas already on how to approach it.
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> kdb

Cool thanks for ref

Just $0.02

Keith W of St Louis AKA Space Cadet