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Re: Arthur C Clarke, RIP
by Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mar 22, 2008 at 12:11 PM
| On 2008-03-22 12:01:22 -0700, "W. Citoan" <wcitoan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
> Gene Ward Smith wrote:
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>> He doesn't define himself as a science fiction author,
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> And what were we talking about? A definition that excludes Bradbury.
> Bradbury's definition excludes himself.
No, it doesn't. His definition is:
"Science fiction is a depiction of the real, fantasy is a depiction of
the unreal. So The Martian Chronicles is not science fiction, it's
fantasy. It couldn't happen, you see?"
That doesn't exclude Bradbury, it excludes THE MARTIAN CHRONICLES.
It includes FAHRENHEIT 451, as Bradbury notes himself.
That Bradbury does'nt consider himself a science fiction writer is not
definitional -- it's clearly meant to be descriptive of how Bradbury
sees himself in general. But by his definition, and by his direct
statement, he's written science fiction.
kdb


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