On Mar 25, 4:36 pm, "Martha Adams" <mh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> news:07607d59-95b9-41a5-b101-56bcbb32c471@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Mar 25, 9:39 am, m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT), in sci.space.policy Space
>
> >> Cadet <kaw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >Hi All
> >> >I found this on rasfc, thought it might be appropriate to pass it
> >> >around to see if we can do something to cut all the crap in here:
>
> >> > > > The headers of posts made via Google include this:
>
> >> >> > Complaints-To: groups-ab...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> >> > I assume that you'd simply write a brief note and attach the
> >> >> > offending post, complete with headers. (Actually, the
> >> >> > headers alone ought to suffice, since they include the
> >> >> > Message-ID.)
>
> >> >> Thanks, I did that last night. My note asked them to please make
> >> >> it
> >> >> stop, and I got an automated reply that my message had been sent
> >> >> to the
> >> >> Gmail abuse team. It made me feel better, anyway.
>
> >> >If anyone else wants to complain, you can either do as Brian and
> >> >Bill
> >> >describe, or (through the web interface):
>
> >> >1. Go tohttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.composition/(*)
> >> >2. Click to open the offending threads. (This is where tabbed
> >> >browsers
> >> >come into their own: on a Mac, I open-apple-clicked on all 16 on
> >> >the
> >> >first page, and then moved on to the next step.)
> >> >3. Find the name with the email address in green - to the right is
> >> >'View
> >> >profile'(1) and further along 'More options' - click this 'More
> >> >options'
> >> >link.
> >> >4. This brings up a selection of links; on the second row is 'Report
> >> >this message'.
> >> >5. You get a form to fill out.
> >> > a. If you don't want to give them your email I imagine a fake one
> >> >will work just as well. After you've filled it out the first time,
> >> >if
> >> >you've got a nice browser you'll only have to type the first letter
> >> >to
> >> >bring it up again for subsequent reports.
> >> > b. Leave the radio buttons as they are.
> >> > c. Type something generic in the text box: I used "This
> >> >spam/pornography is flooding rasfc at the moment; can it please be
> >> >filtered?" and copied it into my clipboard to use on all 16 reports
> >> >I
> >> >made (deleting 'pornography' when not appropriate).
>
> >> >If you're doing a whole bunch at a time, you soon get into the
> >> >rhythm
> >> >of
> >> >it; I reported 16 in about 5 minutes.
>
> >> >One hopes that the more people complain, the more likely Google will
> >> >actually do something about it.
>
> >> >(1) Following this allows you to report entire users using pretty
> >> >much
> >> >the same process.
>
> >> It doesn't matter, rec.photo.digital.* just hashed this out. You
> >> might
> >> care to take a look at:
> >> Killing all posts from Google Groups
> >> The Usenet Improvement Project:http://improve-usenet.org
>
> > "Killing all posts from Google Groups" is all very warm and fuzzy
> > Hitler or Zionist of yourself, isn't it.
>
> > How about just faith-based book and witch burnings at the stake again,
> > or at least good old waterboarding those that post such obvious spam,
> > if at all possible?
>
> > Obviously "m..." and others of their kind voted for GW Bush and
> > company
> > of brown-nosed clowns and minions, that would gladly kill off whomever
> > for their next buck.
>
> > I would argue on behalf of a basic robo-moderator function that could
> > just as easily uncover and divert and/or extract such clearly spam
> > posted crapolla topics to a similar named group, such as merely having
> > the .spam added on, as in sci.space.policy.spam should work rather
> > nicely without ever causing total censorship or author banishment
> > issues.
>
> > BTW, the best of our "Top 10 Space Conspiracy Theories" is still the
> > ongoing NASA/Apollo moon landing hoax of our mutually perpetrated
> > cold-
> > war for profit and global domination century, yet oddly these topics
> > of keen interest are getting robo-purged from Usenet, replaced with
> > officially posted spam that only sucks and blows, as intended by those
> > in charge.
>
> > If smart folks as supposedly having all of "the right stuff" had in
> > fact been upon the moon and having taken all of those thousands of
> > unfiltered Kodak moments (from that physically dark as coal surface as
> > well as from orbit), then do tell where's Venus hiding as of missions
> > A11, A14 and A16?
>
> > Of all the other sorts of gabi40, Clint Eastwood, susi40, susi40001,
> > susi40006, mirror server, dlcz, kgkgjkgkgkfgk and perhaps countless
> > other trash or spam topics getting forced into the Usenet stack,
> > whereas oddly these silly clownish efforts of their mainstream damage-
> > control do not seem to bother those in charge of this or any other
> > Usenet group. Why is that?
>
> > Are these clownish methods of stuffing or force-feeding topics as
> > faith-based approved, so as to intentionally block out or displace all
> > others, or is this Usenet Group trashing tactic merely of something
> > MI5/CIA approved?
>
> > As much the same as our team of cloak and dagger wizards having
> > terminated the robust portion of ESA'a Venus Express PFS instrument,
> > it's yet another interesting note about our physically dark and nasty
> > moon, in that all the supposed better science (far better off than
> > anything NASA/Apollo or of anything NASA since Apollo) and of
> > otherwise perfectly fine expertise of the JAXA/Selene mission is still
> > after all of this on-orbit science is officially sequestered, as
> > though forced into being taboo/nondisclosure within one of our NASA
> > space toilets. (perhaps as parked right next to those 700 missing
> > boxes of their Apollo moon landing hoax missions and of all those
> > pesky Muslim WMD)
>
> > In addition to what little I've discovered, and my having been trying
> > within my best dyslexic encrypted ways to share this new and improved
> > science about Venus and our moon for the past 8+ years and counting,
> > it seems there's lots more to behold about good old Earth that's worth
> > our knowing and sharing, such as the many interesting discoveries and
> > subsequent topics within the following link: Archaeology Answers
> > About Ancient Civilizations Indus River Valley Ancient Maps of the
> > World Ancient India Civilizations Ancient China Civilization Egypt
> > Ancient Gods Strange Pictures Dead Men's Secrets Lost Technology and
> > more...
> >www.beforeus.com
>
> > Other than my having deductively interpreted via honest
> > observationology as to what looks so perfectly intelligent/artificial
> > of the Venus tarmac, township/community of large structures, plus the
> > surrounding infrastructure and of that nearby bridge as looking so
> > gosh darn rational, I can't be absolutely certain about such other
> > intelligent life still existing/coexisting on Venus. However, at
> > least the regular laws of physics and of the best available science
> > can't possibly exclude such, because even us frail humans along with a
> > sufficient degree of applied technology could make a go of it,
> > especially as for representing ETs capable of getting ourselves to/
> > from Venus would in of itself offer more than sufficient technological
> > expertise for safely accommodating an extended stay in spite of all
> > that geothermally forced environment of Venus being so geologically
> > newish, CO2/S8 vapor hot and otherwise downright nasty from the bottom
> > up, and otherwise not as we've been informed as being entirely
> > greenhouse roasted from the top down. The planet Venus has been
> > losing its core energy at the rate of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256 fold
> > greater than Earth), because Venus is simply geothermally active and
> > thus hotter than hell.
>
> > -
>
> > Where the heck are all of those perfectly good NASA/Apollo moon
> > landing hoax topics going? It's as though this Earth is actually
> > flat, whereas such topics and of their authors along with each and
> > every one of those 700 boxes of our NASA/Apollo mission data just fell
> > off the edge.
>
> > Perhaps we should take a little reflective quiet time to fully
> > appreciate upon the recent intellectual and anti-science imposed
> > gauntlets of this Usenet topic/author stalking and science blockage,
> > whereas instead of the truth we're seeing forced topic stacking of
> > such wordy disinformation crapolla so that the general public or media
> > doesn't get an honest wind or otherwise bother to look deep enough
> > into this mainstream cesspool of Usenet, as to discover what's really
> > going down the drain.
>
> > It's exactly like the cloak and dagger worth of those NASA Apollo
> > false or dishonest topics having those key search words of NASA,
> > Apollo, moon landing and hoax continually included within each and
> > every one of those phony postings of obviously bogus topics, that
> > which also include naughty smut and porn related context, as clearly
> > intended in order to cause automatic filtering of what public schools
> > ever get to read, as well as to divert the honest research intentions
> > of others, by way of those hidden or cloak and dagger means that
> > essentially wash-out or force-purge all previous forms of perfectly
> > serious related topics out of their Google/NOVA archives, and thus
> > getting removed from their infowar and otherwise mainstream hype
> > configured Usenet, so that only the mainstream status quo of topics in
> > 100% support of government and of their faith-based NASA/Apollo side
> > of this issue remains accessible to the public.
>
> > Do yourself a basic favor by simply accomplishing a Google Usenet/
> > Group search of ' apollo hoax ' or try ' moon landing ' and then use
> > the "sort by date" feature. It's downright funny, isn't it.
>
> > In them good old days of applying this form of government and
> > theological extremist oversight, or merely orchestrated clownism, as
> > such this tactic was mainstream swarm like accomplished via witch and
> > book burnings that achieved their form of mainstream damage-control
> > trickery of that dark-side era, as well as if need be having put those
> > of their own kind on a stick for yet another shock and awe worth of a
> > faith-based PR stunt wasn't overlooked.
>
> > BTW, my for-real phone of 253-8576061 and email of bradguth@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
> > bradguth@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(among others) has always been answered by myself, so
> > if you're not getting through or you believe that I'm not answering my
> > phone or otherwise not reading or much less returning your email, it's
> > simply not the least bit intentionally because of myself, but instead
> > it's more than likely of those calls or emails of yours have been
> > getting systematically intercepted, modified and/or diverted by those
> > in charge, and otherwise skewed by those having the most to lose,
> > especially if they're not doing their spook and mole like jobs at
> > keeping the rest of us supposed village idiots snookered and
> > dumbfounded past the point of no return.
>
> > If this bad situation of censorship that's clearly getting worse isn't
> > exactly of what those global domination Zionists and of their puppet
> > Hitler warlord (aka partner in crimes against humanity) had in mind,
> > as having since been replaced by our very own warlord(GW Bush) and of
> > his born-again faith of brown-nosed minions, then what the hell is?
>
> > Seems via those presidential signings and of all those DHS powers of
> > God has entirely excluded or having banished all others from taking
> > proper action. Again, it's all very Third Reich and otherwise warlord
> > and otherwise Old Testament of being Zionist global domination like.
> > . - Brad Guth
>
> As I'm posting after Guth's extended diatribe, I
> wonder if anyone will see it. So often a lot of
> words conceals a lack of content; that readers
> would check a couple of screens of that and move
> on, seems likely.
>
> Seems to me, we have three our four problems here,
> and it's no good to talk about them all at once.
> The problems as I see them are,
>
> 1) The small but time-honored problem of noisy
> but empty verbage from preadolescent minds.
>
> 2) The China problem: persons apparently in China
> sending large blocks of sales posts, filling up
> to 80% of screens; these posts totally irrelevant
> to the newsgroup topic (and it's not what the
> reader is there for, anyhow).
>
> 3) The jamming problem, scatware (repugnantly
> scatological) sent in large blocks, filling up
> to 80% of screens. (Who; and why? I suspect
> the hand of American 3-letter agencies in this
> who intend censorship without getting caught
> at it.)
>
> 4) Miscellaneous other crapware, such as the M15
> postings presently abated.
>
> 5) Finally, link posters: people who do not
> trouble themselves to think; rather, they just put
> a link up and that's the post. *Whatever happened*
> to the idea here of people typing in a few short
> paragraphs to exchange thinking and views? ??
>
> Is it possible to write software that can identify
> these things, and automatically block them? The
> scatware should be very easy to stop: the porn
> vocabulary seems to me entirely separate from any
> space topic vocabulary. But for the rest of this,
> if we cannot harden usenet against this rubbish,
> thrown in for whatever reason, then I believe the
> value of usenet, once very high, goes to zero.
>
> Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.space.policy 2008 Mar 25]
Yes in deed, a robo-moderator program on behalf of Usenet can either
divert and/or directly place all such iffy (spam like or purely
trashy) topics into a spam sub-group, such as "sci.space.policy.spam"
without causing outright censorship or banishment issues. It is not
rocket science.
.. - Brad Guth
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