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Re: He is Risen

by mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Alan Chary) Mar 27, 2008 at 04:47 PM

In article <200803270927388930-kurt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Kurt Busiek  <kurt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On 2008-03-27 09:12:58 -0700, mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Michael Alan Chary) said:
>
>> In article <2008032616255716807-kurt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> Kurt Busiek  <kurt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> On 2008-03-26 15:36:21 -0700, Sea Wasp
><seawaspObvious@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think it's arguable either way.  They've both got Indiana Jones on
>>> their side, which feels more Lucas-y than Spielberg-y.  But if you
>>> stack up CE3K, E.T., POLTERGEIST, GREMLINS, GOONIES, JURASSIC PARK and
>>> such up against the STAR WARS canon, LABYRINTH, HOWARD THE DUCK,
WILLOW
>>> and that crowd, you get Lucas having a very strong but concentrated
>>> effect (Star Wars and Indy) while Spielberg has more varied successes.
>>> Spielberg has been hugely influential as a director and a producer;
>>> Lucas is hugely influential as a producer.  Lucas may have spawned
more
>>> attempts to grab his particular brass ring (Disney's THE BLACK HOLE,
>>> for instance, is an attempt to do Lucas), while Spielberg, along with
>>> Kennedy/Marshall, spawned Chris Columbus, Robert Zemeckis and others.
>>> 
>>> Ultimately, it's gonna depend on what you value.  Lucas has had two
>>> shatteringly-successful franchises that have made him enormously
>>> wealthy and which have spawned lots of imitations and helped blow the
>>> doors open for SFX spectacle in Holloywood.  Spielberg has has
>>> astoundingly successful movies that mave made him wealthy, spawned
lots
>>> of spiritual and creative follow-ons and also helped blow the doors
>>> open for SFX spectacle of a different flavor in Hollywood.
>> 
>> 
>> Lucas is, also, largely responsible for the nostalgia wave that hit in
the
>> 1970's through American Graffiti. While things like Happy Days and
Grease
>> were already around (well, I assume Happy Days. I know Grease was.)
when
>> it came out, American Graffiti really caused the nostalgia movement to
>> take off.
>
>HAPPY DAYS and AMERICAN GRAFFITI have an interesting relation****p.  
>HAPPY DAYS originated as a pilot called "New Family in Town," which 
>didn't sell, and which got recycled and burned off as a segment on LOVE 
>AMERICAN STYLE.

That, I saw on LAS. AQN interesting bit, but I would never have greenlit 
it, myself.

>
>Lucas borrowed the "New Family" pilot in lieu of a screen test for Ron 
>Howard, and then cast him in AMERICAN GRAFFITI.  The movie was a hit, 
>and all of a sudden that unsold pilot was a hot property, and got a new 
>chance as a series.

Yeah, that part I remember. I often wondered for myself whether Ron Howard

would have ended up as Luke Skywalker had things shaken out a little 
differently.

>
>So HAPPY DAYS predated AMERICAN GRAFFITI, but AG was directly 
>responsible for HD happening as a shoe.
>

What does Ed Sullivan have to do with anything?
-- 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-03-23 12:07:29 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2008-03-27 09:27:38 
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