On Apr 2, 10:58 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:23:18 -0700 in
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> <Majo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 1, 8:39 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:16:38 -0700 in
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John Schilling
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> >> <schil...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:55:32 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
> >> > <gm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >>On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:15:12 -0400 in
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"Robibnikoff"
> >> >><witchy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >>> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >>>news:sjt1c5-lih.ln1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:39:31 -0700 in
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Douglas Berry
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> >> >>>>> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:22:57 -0700 Bob Cain
> >> >>>>> <arc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> carved the following into the hard
> >> >>>>> stone of alt.atheism
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> >> >>>>>>Move to California and live any of the many places where the
> >> >>>>>>Mexican Indians are taking over. Won't take you too long to
> >> >>>>>>acquire some. Experience based intolerance and tribal dislike,
> >> >>>>>>however, is not quite the same as prejudice.
>
> >> >>>>>>Come armed. They are.
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> >> >>>>> Grew up in California, pendejo. What "Mexican Inidians"? Most
> >> >>>>> Latinos are descended from colonists, just like we are.
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> >> >>>> I dunno, I'd think the vast majority are mixed but there's
pretty
> >> >>>> obviously heavy Indian blood in the nations to the South.
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> >> >>>> Funny, must be guilty consciences that drives some folk to fear
> >> >>>> that the Injuns are coming...
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> >> >>> Hey, I just found out that I'm 1/16 Native American on my bio
dad's
> >> >>> side.
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> >> >>> George's first comment was "Can you get a check from the
> >> >>> government?" D'oh! :)
>
> >> >>Why do people think there are "checks from the government"?
>
> >> >>Reservations are among the most impoverished places on the planet,
> >> >>not just the US but EARTH, yet people think there are "checks".
Where
> >> >>the hell does that idea come from?
>
> >> > Probably from all the checks the government actually does send out
to
> >> > Indians, in some cases for no other reason than that they are
members
> >> > of a particular Indian tribe. For example, if there are grazing,
> >> > timber, or mineral leases on tribal land, those are generally
> >> > administered by the Federal Government, and each member of the
tribe
> >> > gets a monthly check from the Department of the Interior for his or
> >> > her share of the revenues.
>
> >> After theft expenses of course. Or maybe you've not heard of the two
> >> billion dollar "oopsie"?
>
> >> > If it baffles you that A: some Indians recieve government checks
and
> >> > B: some Indian reservations are impoverished, you might want to
> >> > ponder the actual meaning of "some", and the difference between
> >> > "check" and "check for enough money to lift someone out of poverty
> >> > forever no matter what".
>
> >> No, it's the quite common misconception that "Indian" equals "check".
> >> That simply is not true. Further, the tribes that have trusts are not
> >> getting a check "from the government" per se. It's a trust
administered
> >> by the BIA. There's a difference.
>
> >> > And if you think that any Indian reservation is really among the
most
> >> > impoverished places on EARTH, I'm guessing you really haven't spent
> >> > much time outside the US.
>
> >> Well, maybe it's just the shock of seeing third world conditions
smack
> >> in the middle of the world's richest nation.
>
> > Maybe it's because they insist on being called a "nation".
>
> Maybe only because they ARE nations.
>
> > But I did say "among", not
> >> "the".
>
> >> Then again, I could say the reverse. I find it exceedingly rare to
> >> encounter a non-Indian USer who actually knows anything about
> >> reservations ...
>
> > Hi, glad to meetcha.
>
> > And, to answer an earlier question:
> > IF: this (the US) nation were conquered and taken completely over, AND
> > (important criterion) there was NO chance of rebellion, uprising,
> > throwing the bastards out, etc.
> > THEN: I would have the choice to sit and whine or join the new
reality.
> > My choice would be clear -- the new reality.
>
> Coward.
I've been called worse by better people, but I usually understood why.
Why?
cheers
oz
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