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Re: Building A Hero...

by Graham Woodland <gray@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 13, 2008 at 09:31 PM

Sea Wasp wrote:
> David DeLaney wrote:
>> Sea Wasp <seawaspObvious@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>     Not for "personal use", no.
>>
>>
>> Waaah!
>>
>>
>>> You might or might not get to personally meet your creation. Let's 
>>> say it's part of a competition to make the best possible human (or 
>>> near human) you can, based on (A) your view of what "best" is, and 
>>> (B) some fictional template or templates. You can only build one 
>>> superman/woman, though -- no multiples.
>>
>>
>> ...well, it'd be cruel to build Kimball Kinnison without Clarissa as 
>> well.
>> Hmmm.
> 
>     You could provide him with a VR/simulant Clarissa, remember; HE 
> won't necessarily know the difference, unless you tell him. You're only 
> allowed one REAL superman. If you need a bunch of friends around him to 
> make it work, you can simulate those.
> 

You can't really simulate *that* one.  Kim is defined by his 
extraordinary mind - and Clarissa's is, we know, just as good as 
his, along complementary lines.  The first time they go into a 
wide-open two-way, if not sooner, the jig is going to be up, 
unless the 'simulated' mind has all the qualities of the real 
one.  In which case it's still a real mind, which happens to be 
instantiated in a virtual environment.  But it's precisely their 
mental capacities that make them 'superhuman' - you have, to all 
intents and purposes, still got two superfolks there.

Conversely, if you *can* fool 'Kimball Kinnison' into believing 
that some lesser entity is his Chris for more than about a 
skillionth of a second, I'm pretty sure you've failed to simulate 
him.


-- 
Cheers,

Gray

---
To unmung address, lop off the 'be invalid' command.
 




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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-12 19:03:41 
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"Cosmin Corbea"  2008-04-12 23:16:45 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-12 19:39:24 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-04-12 22:27:31 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-13 03:17:07 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-13 03:34:07 
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mstemper@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 12:10:08 
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"Michael S. Schiffer  2008-04-14 18:44:56 
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William George Ferguson &  2008-04-14 12:56:16 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 10:56:18 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 10:54:30 
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Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-04-13 21:31:36 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 17:29:09 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 17:54:24 
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Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-04-14 06:28:55 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-14 07:06:16 
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Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-04-14 18:33:48 
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Lawrence Watt-Evans <l  2008-04-13 00:07:52 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 10:56:45 
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Carl Dershem <dershem@  2008-04-13 16:44:50 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-13 18:32:40 
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stremler@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-13 18:48:34 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 17:24:12 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 08:09:28 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-14 07:08:19 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-15 10:28:03 
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lal_truckee <lal_truck  2008-04-14 16:47:01 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 14:02:43 
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"Christopher Adams&q  2008-04-14 00:01:46 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 16:21:33 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-14 07:02:33 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 16:28:26 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-14 05:00:47 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-14 18:24:50 
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norrin <adweiland@[EMA  2008-04-14 06:37:40 
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"Nobody in particula  2008-04-13 00:47:56 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 10:58:39 
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"Nobody in particula  2008-04-16 03:09:09 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 03:42:43 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 11:01:19 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 11:07:12 
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stamant@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-13 16:01:50 
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Larry Caldwell <firstn  2008-04-13 13:42:53 
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"Joel Olson" &l  2008-04-14 06:58:38 
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"Paul Ian Harman&quo  2008-04-14 17:03:30 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-15 03:12:36 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-15 08:23:23 
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mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 14:38:08 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-15 17:43:54 
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mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-16 15:31:16 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2008-04-16 11:15:53 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-16 18:32:53 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-16 18:31:06 
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BP <reply@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-16 12:51:14 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-16 20:58:40 
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Carl Dershem <dershem@  2008-04-18 03:47:16 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-20 00:32:36 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-04-19 21:22:09 
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David Allsopp <daa@[EM  2008-04-17 09:02:02 

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