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Re: Clarification...Re: Building A Hero...

by tphile <tphile@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 13, 2008 at 04:21 PM

On Apr 13, 4:54=A0pm, Sea Wasp <seawaspObvi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Graham Woodland wrote:
> > You can't really simulate *that* one. =A0Kim is defined by his
> > extraordinary mind - and Clarissa's is, we know, just as good as his,
> > along complementary lines. =A0The first time they go into a wide-open
> > two-way, if not sooner, the jig is going to be up, unless the
> > 'simulated' mind has all the qualities of the real one. =A0In which
case=

> > it's still a real mind, which happens to be instantiated in a virtual
> > environment. =A0But it's precisely their mental capacities that make
the=
m
> > 'superhuman' - you have, to all intents and purposes, still got two
> > superfolks there.
>
> > Conversely, if you *can* fool 'Kimball Kinnison' into believing that
> > some lesser entity is his Chris for more than about a skillionth of a
> > second, I'm pretty sure you've failed to simulate him.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Part of the goal is to get as close as possible -- but
pos=
sibility
> will limit you. In this case you could make a super-competent AI that
> THINKS it's Clarissa, and which is at least as capable as the Kinnison
> design.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 An example of one of these adaptations would be, oh,
Wolve=
rine from
> the X-Men. I can use the Near-Unobtainium (which is carbon, so easily
> integrated) for the "adamantium" skeleton and as the main component of
> his claws, I can enhance his toughness and speed and strength with the
> right modifications and give him regeneration to some extent with the
> nanotech -- but I'm not going to actually reach the "Healing Factor"
> level of the comics, or the true indestructibility of the adamantium,
> etc.
>
> --
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Sea Wasp
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 /^\
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ;;; =A0 =A0
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Live Journal:http://seawasp.livejournal.com-
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are the claws springloaded cybernetic implants?  or the result of some
form
of genesplicing or mutation.  organic claws with muscles and ligaments
to operate them.
which would realistically give him popeye type bulgy forearms.
one of the problems with the x-men and many heroes in general is that
they have great powers
but not the obvious limitations or side effects that come with them.
For example Cyclops wearing his ruby quartz gl***** at all times
should have color blindness issues.
Medusa of the Inhumans would need a thick neck brace at least to
sup****t that mop of living hair of hers.
and a unobtanium skeleton would not stop a blade from amputating at
the joints.

tphile
 




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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-12 19:03:41 
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"Cosmin Corbea"  2008-04-12 23:16:45 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-12 19:39:24 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-04-12 22:27:31 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-13 03:17:07 
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mstemper@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 12:10:08 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 10:56:18 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 10:54:30 
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Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-04-13 21:31:36 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 17:54:24 
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Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-04-14 06:28:55 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-14 07:06:16 
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Lawrence Watt-Evans <l  2008-04-13 00:07:52 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 10:56:45 
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Carl Dershem <dershem@  2008-04-13 16:44:50 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-13 18:32:40 
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stremler@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-13 18:48:34 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 17:24:12 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 08:09:28 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-14 07:08:19 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-15 10:28:03 
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lal_truckee <lal_truck  2008-04-14 16:47:01 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 14:02:43 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 16:21:33 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-14 07:02:33 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 16:28:26 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-14 05:00:47 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-14 18:24:50 
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norrin <adweiland@[EMA  2008-04-14 06:37:40 
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"Nobody in particula  2008-04-13 00:47:56 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 03:42:43 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-13 11:01:19 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 11:07:12 
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stamant@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-13 16:01:50 
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Larry Caldwell <firstn  2008-04-13 13:42:53 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-15 03:12:36 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-15 08:23:23 
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mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 14:38:08 
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mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-16 15:31:16 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-04-16 18:32:53 
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tphile <tphile@[EMAIL   2008-04-16 20:58:40 
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