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Re: questionable conception

by Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 09:25 PM

Kevin <ktn3654@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
news:fuiu0k$e4p$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> In article <0tvo04549m5fi50230hkmnt1g4jhbrup01@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> Howard Brazee  <howard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:11:47 GMT, djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Dorothy
>>>J Heydt) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, ever so many people (and webcomic characters) say
>>>>"immactulate conception" when they mean "virgin birth."
>>>
>>>Agreed
> 
>      Is there any specific name for the conception that came
>      nine months 
> before the Virgin Birth?  Or is that not even considered to be a
> genuine conception at all?
> 
> 
>>>>Mostly, I suppose, because they don't really care.
>>>
>>>And most Protestants think the Roman Catholic Church deifies
>>>Mary, and they believe this is wrong.
> 
>> In the first place, they're wrong; the Church doesn't defiy
>> Mary. 
> 
>      I've never heard any Protestant say that.  I have heard
>      plenty of 
> Protestants say that the Catholic Church ascribes Mary an
> excessively exalted role.  I think this is a genuine theological
> difference, and not just a case of misunderstanding the other's
> position. 
> 
> 
>> In the second place, they're right, because if the Church *did*
>> deify Mary, that would be wrong.
> 
>> Not that certain individual butter-for-brains Catholics don't
>> try on occasion.  I remember one woman at St. Mary Magdalene's
>> who used to go around trying to get people to sign a *petition*
>> to the Pope asking him to invest Mary with various titles
>> essentially proclaiming her Christ's equal.  One was
>> "Co-Redemptrix of Mankind," IIRC.  I don't think she ever got
>> any signatures.
> 
>      The drive to proclaim Mary Co-Redemptrix is still going on
>      and 
> it seems to have more than just a few sup****ters, as you can
> easily find by googling.  Various cardinals and bishops appear
> to have announced their sup****t for it.  The petition you speak
> of wound up getting several million signatures, as you can see
> in the New York Times article linked below.  If the drive does
> succeed, it's a safe bet what Protestants will think.

There's only one signature required. All others are completely 
irrelevant. The Catholic Church isn't a democracy.

-- 
Terry Austin

"There's no law west of the internet."
    - Nick Stump

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
 




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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 04:44:20 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 05:11:47 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-04-21 05:52:36 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 14:57:46 
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Kevin <ktn3654@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 20:38:44 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-21 21:04:01 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 21:25:32 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 23:40:28 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 23:51:58 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-24 00:01:07 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-04-24 02:59:29 
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Kevin <ktn3654@[EMAIL   2008-04-24 00:52:30 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-04-24 03:01:17 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-24 03:23:44 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-04-25 05:59:21 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-04-24 23:01:44 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-25 16:35:24 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 23:16:48 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-22 03:34:45 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 21:26:17 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-23 21:56:10 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-21 06:39:47 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-04-21 11:46:20 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 07:03:15 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 15:03:47 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-04-21 09:26:05 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-22 03:36:18 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 18:12:55 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-21 18:24:09 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-22 03:35:24 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-22 15:26:01 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-22 22:09:13 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-04-23 11:34:01 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 21:22:49 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 21:19:10 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-23 21:39:20 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 23:03:16 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-23 16:10:30 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 23:19:55 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 19:20:19 
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norrin <adweiland@[EMA  2008-04-23 07:03:22 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-04-23 11:35:22 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-04-23 10:29:58 
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herwin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-26 10:59:26 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-26 08:36:40 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-23 17:26:37 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 18:17:45 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-04-23 11:58:49 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 21:12:23 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-23 21:37:38 
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William George Ferguson &  2008-04-23 15:53:09 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-04-23 16:20:06 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 23:42:59 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-24 00:16:30 
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Taki Kogoma <quirk@[EM  2008-04-23 20:20:33 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-04-23 18:03:32 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-04-23 18:01:57 
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tmcd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-25 21:19:47 
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"Nobody in particula  2008-04-25 22:28:06 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 20:42:57 
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Steve Coltrin <spcoltr  2008-04-30 14:53:45 
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Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-04-23 21:32:27 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 21:13:20 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2008-04-23 14:23:18 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 23:45:09 
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cryptoguy <treifamily@  2008-04-30 15:07:16 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-04-30 15:55:11 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 06:43:41 
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lal_truckee <lal_truck  2008-04-22 16:49:51 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-22 17:17:12 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-22 17:43:56 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 21:28:02 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-23 22:52:01 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 23:02:26 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-23 23:13:33 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 23:19:19 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-22 18:00:08 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-22 18:19:10 
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Andrew Plotkin <erkyra  2008-04-22 18:58:16 
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"Dan Tilque" &l  2008-04-23 07:38:14 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-04-23 21:28:44 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 23:46:56 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-04-24 03:02:07 
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Aaron Denney <wnoise@[  2008-04-24 04:22:56 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-24 04:48:10 
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