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Re: Anyone read Stirling's latest?

by ffranco@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 28, 2008 at 01:02 PM

On Apr 24, 5:19=A0pm, prestorjon <prestor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 6:56 am, johan.g.lar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> > On Apr 7, 11:44 pm, Ahasuerus <ahasue...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > To be fair to SteveStirling, not all of his subsequent books have
> > > swordfights, e.g. the heroes (for some values of the term) of
> > > _Conquistador_ favored firearms when they were available, or even
Hot
> > > Lesbian S&M ***, e.g. the Hot Female Scientist in _The Peshawar
> > > Lancers_ tells us that she is *not* a lesbian up front, presumably
> > > just in case.
>
> > You know, ifStirlingwere to write a novel where the characters know
> > they are in aStirlingnovel, and are taking pains to avoid his most
> > obvious cliches, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. But that would be
> > postmodern, and might make the author's head explode.
>
> > Johan Larson
>
> One of the things I've noticed in his latest novels is that he seems
> to be far more interested in the worlds he's created than in any kind
> of plot for them. =A0Conquistador is a notorious example of this IMO
> where he sets up this nice scenario of the feds trying to figure out
> what's going on, then the middle of the book basically turns into a
> several hundred page travelogue of the alternate Earth, and then in
> the last three or four chapters it's like Stirling's editor told him
> "Uh Steve you're going to have to wrap this up soon" and he just
> tacked on this rushed ending. =A0I've suggested before that maybe he
> write a "non-fiction" book ala For Want of a Nail, or create a world
> and let someone else write it. =A0That would seem to play to his
> strength's of coming up with interesting scenarios while getting
> around his disdain of plot and annoying characterization tropes


I have only read two Stirling books, Conquistador and Drakon. I
enjoyed Conquistador but thought it would have been a better book if
he had not revealed the existence of the alternate universe so early.
More of a mystery, with the other world slowly discovered and then
revealed, would have made a better story and created more sense of
wonder in the reader.

I finished Drakon, but didn't think too much of it. I guess it
entertained me enough to keep reading. I won't finish a book I'm not
enjoying or which can't hold my interest.

I have Island in the Sea of Time, but haven't got around to reading it
yet.
 




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Anyone read Stirling's latest?
prestorjon <prestorjon  2008-04-05 22:01:30 
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ravenlynne <ravenlynne  2008-04-06 07:21:45 
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"Dan Goodman" &  2008-04-06 19:05:42 
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ravenlynne <ravenlynne  2008-04-07 07:23:05 
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cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-07 21:22:50 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-04-07 18:51:25 
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"Rick" <rikw  2008-04-11 12:42:26 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-11 17:49:01 
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"Rick" <rikw  2008-04-11 15:37:24 
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Georgiana Gates <ramro  2008-04-11 17:13:22 
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"Rick" <rikw  2008-04-11 18:51:55 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-04-12 00:04:41 
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"Rick" <rikw  2008-04-11 20:27:39 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-04-12 09:58:08 
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"Rick" <rikw  2008-04-12 17:36:22 
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"AJ" <tortur  2008-04-11 21:07:40 
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Howard <rayc_hrc@[EMAI  2008-04-06 07:39:24 
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johan.g.larson@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-06 08:02:34 
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Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@[  2008-04-07 20:44:35 
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Eric D. Berge <eric_be  2008-04-10 23:15:58 
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johan.g.larson@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-08 03:56:40 
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"Rick" <rikw  2008-04-11 12:41:11 
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Howard <rayc_hrc@[EMAI  2008-04-11 20:49:31 
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Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@[  2008-04-12 16:35:54 
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prestorjon <prestorjon  2008-04-24 17:02:42 
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"pullo" <pul  2008-04-24 22:19:21 
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prestorjon <prestorjon  2008-04-24 17:14:01 
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cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 17:49:27 
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prestorjon <prestorjon  2008-04-24 17:19:10 
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prestorjon <prestorjon  2008-04-24 17:52:36 
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"pullo" <pul  2008-04-24 22:26:51 
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ffranco@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 13:02:10 
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Steve <joatsimeon@[EMA  2008-06-03 22:34:27 
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prestorjon <prestorjon  2008-07-20 16:03:02 
Re: Anyone read Stirling's latest?
"Mike stone" &l  2008-07-21 07:16:27 
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Jordan179 <JSBassior20  2008-07-21 03:42:03 
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Jordan179 <JSBassior20  2008-07-21 03:43:09 
Re: Anyone read Stirling's latest?
prestorjon <prestorjon  2008-08-25 15:14:41 
Re: Anyone read Stirling's latest?
prestorjon <prestorjon  2008-08-25 15:17:23 

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