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Re: People unclear on the subject

by Brenda Clough <clough@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 02:06 AM

Rebecca Rice wrote:
> Jon Schild wrote:
> 
>>
>> Brenda Clough wrote:
>>
>>> Rebecca Rice wrote:
>>>
>>>> And just recently I was watching Sweeny Todd (the one with Depp), 
>>>> and the lecherous judge is showing the naive young sailor his 
>>>> several books of ****.  Pictures of women doing anything that you 
>>>> can imagine.  The geishas of Japan, the concubines of Siam, the 
>>>> catamites of Greece, the harlots of India....  My thought was:  Did 
>>>> Sondheim not realize that one of these is not like the others?
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't blame Sondheim.  For one thing, he was responsible only 
>>> for the lyrics and the music.  The 'book' of the musical was by Hugh 
>>> Wheeler.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, the whole **** thing was original to the movie. None of 
>>> the interaction between Anthony and the Judge was in the stage 
>>> production at all.  I suppose it was added to enhance the Judge's 
>>> creepiness.
>>>
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, it's probably some third-string screen writer, hired to spice up 
>> a couple of scenes. Somebody should have noticed though.
>>
>>
> I have to say that I found that entire subplot... odd.  You have the 
> da****ng young sailor who falls in love with a girl he sees through a 
> window who is being held captive by a very creepy old guy.  Young man 
> manages to rescue young girl without a whole lot of trouble, stashes her

> in a safe place, she says "and will things really be ok after this" (or 
> something roughly to that effect), he goes to get traveling methods, and

> that's the last that we ever see of that storyline.  Oddly 
> unsatisfying.  The fact that the young man only had one, 
> not-very-interesting song, didn't help.
> 
> Rebecca



It was badly truncated in the movie.  In the stage show it is 
clear that the two young lovers are reunited.

It would have been no trouble for the movie producers to tie off 
this particular plot thread, if only with a long shot of Joanna 
and Anthony hand in hand galloping away down the street.

Brenda


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---------
Brenda W. Clough
http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda/

Recent short fiction:
"A Mighty Fortress"
http://www.helixsf.com/archives/Jul07/index.htm
 




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Rebecca Rice <philosph  2008-05-05 19:34:50 
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