On May 12, 3:22=A0pm, "IlBeBa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <IlBeBa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 12, 10:08=A0am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
> > Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
exemplified by such fine people like
Jim Jones
David Koresh
Jim Baker
Warren Jeffs
Rev Ted (imma a fag) Haggard
Benny Hinn
Jimmy Swaggart
Brian David Mitchell (Elizabeth Smart's kidnapper and insane street
preacher)
>
> >http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695277148,00.html
>
> > Scott Martin Weisser, the former pastor of First Baptist Church of
> > Salt Lake, has pleaded no contest to two criminal charges against him
> > and has been put on probation.
>
> > Weisser, 52, originally was charged with first-degree felony attempted
> > rape and class B misdemeanor assault in connection with a March 16
> > incident involving an adult female in his Midvale home.
>
>
> REPLY: =A0All youre showing is , what the Christian Faith is NOT .
> Your
> showing people who dont follow the christian faith and its ideals and
> moral laws. =A0 Can you provide a news story where a real Christian who
> follows its ideals and moral laws =A0commits a crime ? =A0 Didnt think
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Sorry ASSHOLE, but it isn't your decision as to who is and isn't a
Xtian
Re: The Real Scottsman Fallacy
This is connected to the widespread attempt in debate to assert that
positive terms (good, decent) imply, naturally or by definition, the
characteristics argued for (opposition to capital punishment,
****ography, smoking in public), rather than actually making an
argument why they are connected. "No decent Scotsman" can be
considered the moral (practical) equivalent of the theoretical "No
true Scotsman".
For example, it may be asserted that "No decent person[3] would
sup****t hanging", "watch ****ography", or "smoke in public". This is
an abbreviated form of the fallacy: compare "he may take salt in his
****ridge, but no true Scotsman would" and "(some people may sup****t
smoking in public), but no decent person would." Often the speaker
seems unaware that he is, in fact, coercively (re)defining the meaning
of the phrase "decent person" to gain tactical advantage in the
argument. The use of this technique ****fts the debate away from the
merits of hanging, ****ography, or smoking (or whatever controversial
subject that may be at issue) by attempting to establish, without
basis in logic, that anyone disagreeing with the speaker is, in fact,
"indecent".[4]
The word "real" may be substituted for "true" and still commit the
same fallacy in different plumes. For example, when General George
Patton said, "All real Americans love the sting of battle" to his
soldiers, he was implying that they were unAmerican if they shrank
from combat.
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