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Re: Oldest SF not necessarily most dated?

by "Dan Goodman" <dsgood@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 13, 2008 at 04:28 AM

lal_truckee wrote:

> ilya2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> 
> > I doubt any publisher today would touch such a book
> > with a ten-foot pole for that reason alone.
> 
> Ah! I take it you are opposed to recreational *** and chemical mental
> enhancements? 

How did you manage to infer _that_ from what was said?

> You do realize the current attitudes are tem****ary and
> subject to change - just the sort of things one would desire their SF
> explore.

One might desire that; and one might desire their political
representatives to be humble.  The odds are about the same.

Varley was going with then-current trends. Someone writing today would
most likely go with current trends.

 
> Not to say that Varley hit any nails during his Gaia flailings.



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2008-05-13 00:29:57

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2008-05-13 19:33:27

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2008-05-14 20:26:26

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2008-05-14 20:19:56

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2008-05-19 00:44:06

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2008-05-20 02:31:55

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2008-05-12 22:27:57

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2008-05-13 05:30:07

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2008-05-13 13:25:32

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2008-05-16 07:04:01

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2008-05-12 22:24:36

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2008-05-13 09:29:51

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2008-05-13 00:28:13

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2008-05-13 04:24:50

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2008-05-13 03:18:23

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2008-05-13 14:12:02

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2008-05-12 20:54:15

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2008-05-14 11:24:57

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2008-05-15 00:38:20

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2008-05-17 16:24:03

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2008-05-23 14:43:50

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2008-05-29 04:39:43

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2008-05-28 23:27:54

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2008-05-29 09:52:00

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2008-05-14 20:22:47

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2008-06-02 11:16:02

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2008-06-02 02:39:34

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