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Re: Where Do Darwinist Atheists Get Their Moral Values?

by veritas <khogantwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 13, 2008 at 07:26 PM

On May 13, 4:42=A0am, James A. Donald <jam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 07:28:06 -0700 (PDT), Bill Patterson
>
> > Since morality is possible only to the willful, any
> > tracing of origins and genealogy would be simply
> > expanding on an analogy that is not very apt.
> > Attributing human-like motivations to non-humans is a
> > literary device, not an ethical tool.
>
> Your position is creationist. =A0In reality there are no
> absolute difference between humans and other animals.
> The characteristics that make humans different from
> other animals are part of a continuum, differences of
> degree, not differences of kind.
>
> --
> =A0 ----------------------
> We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
> of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
> right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
>
> http://www.jim.com/=A0
=A0 =A0James A. Donald

You may call it creationist, but in reality there are huge differences
in Modern Humans and other animals.  Both physically and mentally.  A
Neantherthal or Erectus could not even sew.  They did not have the
hand dexterity.  They both could run the 100 meter dash in about 25
seconds.  They never learned to throw spears, they thrust them.  They
kept the same flint tools for a 100,000 years the same.  We are light
years from any species on this planet.
Ken Hogan
 




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veritas <khogantwo@[EM  2008-05-10 09:42:31 
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veritas <khogantwo@[EM  2008-05-15 08:20:56 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-05-15 17:24:09 
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veritas <khogantwo@[EM  2008-05-15 08:29:50 
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James A. Donald <james  2008-05-16 08:18:45 
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veritas <khogantwo@[EM  2008-05-17 08:48:41 
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Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-05-17 10:54:10 
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veritas <khogantwo@[EM  2008-05-17 13:02:16 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-05-16 21:36:52 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-05-18 21:32:25 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-05-17 21:44:59 
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