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Re: Where Do Darwinist Atheists Get Their Moral Values?

by veritas <khogantwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 04:47 PM

On May 13, 9:33=A0pm, Aaron Denney <wno...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.arts.sf.written.]
> On 2008-05-14, veritas <khogan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 13, 12:16=A0am, James A. Donald <jam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:57:59 -0700 (PDT), veritas
>
> >> > You are twisting things around. =A0You start out with a
> >> > true statement about genes pressing you to survive
> >> > then go down hill. =A0It is better to be feared than
> >> > loved.
>
> >> In the ancestral environment, someone who was feared
> >> more than loved would soon find himself alone, someone
> >> who found himself alone would soon find himself dead.
>
> >> We are all descended from a long line of apes, each of
> >> whom was sufficiently trusted that other apes would hang
> >> out with him.
>
> >> --
> >> =A0 ----------------------
> >> We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
> >> of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
> >> right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
>
> >>http://www.jim.com/=A0=A0
=A0James A. Donald
>
> > We decended from something, but it sure was not apes. =A0I don't know
> > where we did, but we are not even kin to any of the old human like
> > species, such as Neatherthal or Erectus. =A0We are back at square one.
> > We don't know.
>
> We are apes. =A0Modern apes are our selves, and our cousins. =A0Our
common=

> ancestors were apes.
>
> --
> Aaron Denney
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No Aaron, looks like we were wrong.  We are not common ancestors with
apes.  See Cambridge University study, April 2007.  We are back to
square one.  We don't know where we came from but we aren't kin to
them.  Regards, Ken Hogan




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Where Do Darwinist Atheists Get Their Moral Values?
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veritas <khogantwo@[EM  2008-05-15 08:20:56 
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Bill Snyder <bsnyder@[  2008-05-15 10:45:45 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-05-15 17:24:09 
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veritas <khogantwo@[EM  2008-05-15 08:29:50 
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James A. Donald <james  2008-05-16 08:18:45 
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veritas <khogantwo@[EM  2008-05-17 08:48:41 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-05-16 21:36:52 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-05-18 21:32:25 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-05-17 21:44:59 
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