Re: Oldest SF not necessarily most dated?

On May 14, 4:16=A0pm, "Mike stone" <mwst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > DougL <lampert.d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > Much like the 'All Frenchmen in 1945 had been members of the
> > > resistance since 1941' phenomena I'm sure that 'All Austrians
> > opposed
> > > the Anschluss, including especially any named Kurt Waldheim
> > who really
> > > had nothing to do with it at all'.
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> And "all Brits in 1945 remebered how appalled they had been by Munich in
> '38", and "the vast majority of Americans in Nov 1963 remembered voting
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> Kennedy two years before, and an almost equal majority, in August 1974,
> remembered having voted for McGovern in '72". Memory is a funny bthing.

But the wierd thing about the Anschluss especially and the Frogs to a
lesser extent is that the REST of us mostly go along with the gag.

And in the case of the Frogs we insult them and use them for comic
relief on Hogan's Heroes and other comedies. I can't think of an
Austrian specific insulting term, Italians are Wogs, French are Frogs,
Brits are Limeys, Spaniards are Spics, Poles are Polacks, Austrians
are ???.

I can also come up with an unfavorable stereotype for each of the
above except Austrians without any real difficulty.

> > And Beethoven was an Austrian, whereas Hitler was German.
>
> Not totally crazy.

Yeh, but taking both for granted requires someone to have performed
some contortions, and we routinely do that sort of contortion in ways
that make the Austrians look good.

Heck Americans don't even call them Cheeze Eating Surrender Monkeys or
anything, and realistically the Austrian's military record since 1900
isn't any better than the Frogs and it's much worse if I go back much
farther.

DougL