Re: Where Do Darwinist Atheists Get Their Moral Values?

On May 16, 7:06=A0pm, thro...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Wayne Throop) wrote:
> : veritas <khogan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> : I never implicitly admitted the claim of lack of common ancestry was a
> : mistake.
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> Oh, and you were doing so well. =A0Now backsliding. =A0Tsk tsk.
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> : I claimed that we don't know where we evolved so rapidly and able to
> : dominate the world so quickly.
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> Do I really need to quote all the places you use the phrases "no kin"
> and "not common ancestors with"? =A0If you want to weaken your claim
> now, and claim something more sensible, that's fine, but don't try to
> convince folks that's what you said all along, because I don't think
it'll=

> work, what will all those previous posts still being there.
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> Note: I've several times hinted that maybe you meant "neanderthals/
> apes/whatnot are not *direct* *ancestors* of humans", which is a very
> different issue than sharing a common ancestor, even a very recent
> common ancestor. =A0Your uncle isn't your direct ancestor, but you
> share a common ancestor, and are quite close kin. =A0Neanderthals are,
> pretty much, humanity's uncle, insofar as one can stretch the analogy.
> Apes are maybe grandprents-siblings-offspring.
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> So. =A0Fine. =A0But whatever you may have *meant*, what you *said* was
> neanderthals were "no kin", and apes "are not common ancestors with",
> and handwaving about "lightyears apart". =A0None of which is an accurate
> account. =A0Both neanderthals and apes are relatively *close* human kin,
> as such things go at the species level.
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> If you are wondering where/why humanity got so smart, and why
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> and apes were/are allegedly so unsmart, shrug, there *can* by prodigies
> in most any family. =A0Humans are just primate prodigies.
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Wayne, you are always careful with your posts, and I didn't read
your's close enough because my temper was gone with the insulters.
You of course may be right, we are just primate prodigies.  But about
10,000 Adult DNA combinations all at once?  That's a large prodigy.
What is so interesting to me is that the proof is in that we are not
any kin to Neantherthals.  I think it went like this: if your DNA is a
100% match, you could be four generations back related, if you DNA is
ONE gene off than you can be twelve generations back related.  They
were 26-28 markers different than us.  That makes them no kin unless
you use the mathematical theory, and that is what it is, a theory,
than a million years ago we could have been related.  But that is just
mathematical back figuring.  Those people came from somewhere, and as
the 10,000 bred, they had to be together in order to do that.  Where
were they during all the hell from 74,000 b.c.e. to 60,000 b.c.e. when
they started wandering out of North Africa?  So, if I back slid, it
was only to this, and if I say "no kin" I mean that though their DNA
is close to us, that does not make them us.  We are different you have
to admit.  This place has never seen anything like us.  But, I'm sure
it will be a fight to change minds, as we have been taught that we are
all related.  Now, they aren't so sure.  But one good thing would come
out of it, there would be no races anymore.  We all decended from
about 10,000 adult DNA combinations, and we are all one race.  The
only difference in any of us is the climate and survival changes we
had to undergo on different parts of the planet.  So much for the
racists!   Regards as always, Ken Hogan